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		![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif)  2009/11/12 19:24:40
	  
	    Subject: Second attempt at IG with Grey Knight pals. 
	
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                            Excellent Exalted Champion of Chaos
	 
 
 
		
		
	
	
	
	
	 Grim Forgotten Nihilist Forest.
	
		
  
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									Ok, so my last list wasn't so good and I mistook platoon command for company command.
  And a pal lent me his daemon hunters dex!
  
  (HQ)
  90pts Company Command with standard,vox,plasma gun and Sniper *Sniper can switch to nades or flamer, went for variety on that fellow!*
  
  (Troops)
  65pts 10x Guardsmen with vox and flamers.
  
  65pts 10x Guardsmen with vox and nade launchers.
  
  75pts 3x Autocannon teams.
  
  55pts 10x Guardsmen with vox.
  
  190pts Vets with meltaguns,demos, vox and the sarge has a shotgun, all seated in a chimera.
  
  (Elites)
  95 pts x5 Stromtroopers with a meltagun.
  
  65pts Counts as Marbo.
  
  (Fast attack)
  
  75pts Armoured Sentienel with plasma cannon.
  
  200pts x5 Grey Knights with teleport and 2 psycannons.
  
  (Heavys)
  
  125pts Basalisk.
  
  150pts Russ.
  
  245pts Russ demolisher with mm and pask *Played this thing yesderday and it is a beast!*
  
  Did I do better this time? ^_^
							 
							
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 I've sold so many armies. :( 
 Aeldari 3kpts         
 Slaves to Darkness.3k      
 Word Bearers 2500k        
 Daemons of Chaos         
 
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		![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif)  2009/11/12 21:39:57
	  
	    Subject: Second attempt at IG with Grey Knight pals. 
	
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                            Average Orc Boy
	 
 
 
	
	
	 
	
 
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									It might just be me being a noob, but don't you need a Platoon Command Squad for those guard?
							 
							
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 "They shall be my finest Cannon Fodder, these men who give themselves to me. Like clay I will mold them and in the furnace of war they will become cracked and broken. They will be of tissue paper and whimpy muscle. In tissue paper armor I clad them and with the mightiest flashlights they will be armed. They will be touched by every sort of plauge or disease to help further make them unhappy, all sickness will blight them. They will have almost no tactics, strategies, but lots of machines so that they can atleast stand up to a foe in battle. They are my tar pit against the Terror. They are the bulk of Humanity. They are my Imperial Guard and they will know much fear!" 
 
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		![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif)  2009/11/12 22:16:18
	  
	    Subject: Second attempt at IG with Grey Knight pals. 
	
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                            Kid_Kyoto
	 
 
 
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									My thoughts as follows.  Just observations:
  
  Issues:
  CCS - Mixed weapons with different ideal targets and ranged.  Single plasma with none of the other required gear to make it good is cruise control for disappointment.
  
  Troops - You lack a PCS, which is a manditory part of the platoon.  I think your infantry squads are fine, though if you're ever planning on combining them, they will need a commissar in at least one to keep from breaking.  
  
  Vets - Why give just the Sarge a shotgun?  Everyone else can have them for free too.  Generally, I think it should be an all or nothing decision, and even then, they should probably only be given to the squad if the squad is going to assault, and you shouldn't be assaulting with melta vets.  If you know something I don't then I'd love to hear it.
  
  Armored Sentinel - like many things in 40k, One is zero and two is one.  I prefer scouts over armored because I use them as a 35 pts/model outflanking multilaser right where the enemy doesn't want it.  YMMV, but if you can make another, I would.
  
  Grey Knights - I've never been a huge fan of GK teleport attack, especially not with two psycannons.  Thats a pretty expensive mishap.  Those are the two longest ranged weapons GK can get.  Why not walk them in?  Then they also count as a troop choice and can get objectives.  It's not like you're starved for Troop slots at this point.  Either get some points back and give them incinerators or just footslog them.  Better still, add a IG transport for them.
  
  Tanks are good, but Pask is two more Grey Knights you're not getting.
  
  Things I like: 
  Heavy weapons squad is good.  I like autocannons.
  
  Stormtrooper squad is good.  I like the melta, but I think you should add another.  I assume that you are planning on deep striking them?
  
  Marbo is always a convincing sell on me.  He's an unknown, but generally he pays off at least equal points.
  
  Final Suggestions:
  
  Consider adding in some GKT in the future.
  
  Whenever I'm making a list, I prefer thinking of the one or two things I have that I'm expecting to do well.  I then like sell myself all of my upgrades in terms of those things.  I really like tanks and I like GK too.  When buying an upgrade, ask yourself, "how much will this get used in this squad?  Is there anything else that already does it better?  Will this decrease the number of points that I have to spend on GK or more LRBTs?"
  
  
							 
							
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		![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif)  2009/11/12 23:52:09
	  
	    Subject: Second attempt at IG with Grey Knight pals. 
	
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                            Warplord Titan Princeps of Tzeentch
	 
 
 
		
	
	
	
	
	 Pat that askala, O-H-I hate this stupid state
	
		
  
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									My experience with grey knights is somewhat limited but the best way to get them into range whether it be CC or incinerator range is to shadow a transport or DS out in the open and footslogging is bad for them. As soon as your opponent sees them within range he will take them out of the equation.
  I would DS them in with incinerators  so they stand a chance of doing damage. 
							 
							
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		![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif)  2009/11/13 00:07:55
	  
	    Subject: Re:Second attempt at IG with Grey Knight pals. 
	
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                            Excellent Exalted Champion of Chaos
	 
 
 
		
		
	
	
	
	
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									So wait wait.. I have to have a platoon and company command??
  
  My bigger list has GKT and a valkyrie this is for smaller games. :3
							 
							
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 I've sold so many armies. :( 
 Aeldari 3kpts         
 Slaves to Darkness.3k      
 Word Bearers 2500k        
 Daemons of Chaos         
 
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		![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif)  2009/11/13 00:11:14
	  
	    Subject: Second attempt at IG with Grey Knight pals. 
	
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                            Warplord Titan Princeps of Tzeentch
	 
 
 
		
	
	
	
	
	 Pat that askala, O-H-I hate this stupid state
	
		
  
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									IG...codex.... hurt.......brain.
  
							 
							
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    Grey knights 3000  
   Sisters of battle 3000  
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		![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif)  2009/11/13 00:22:57
	  
	    Subject: Re:Second attempt at IG with Grey Knight pals. 
	
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									It does. and when I had a platoon squad I  was told to put in company command.
  
  :S
  
  
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  Ok! If I drop pask and the plasma gun in the CCS. 
  
  I can field a platoon command with a vox and a commissar 
  
  Better? I am horribly confused about this.
							 
							
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								 This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2009/11/13 00:32:09 
							
 I've sold so many armies. :( 
 Aeldari 3kpts         
 Slaves to Darkness.3k      
 Word Bearers 2500k        
 Daemons of Chaos         
 
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		![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif)  2009/11/13 03:12:01
	  
	    Subject: Second attempt at IG with Grey Knight pals. 
	
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                            Wicked Warp Spider
	 
 
 
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									OK, your CCS is an HQ choice. You must have one HQ choice, so choose one ccs OR one lord commissar OR one primaris psyker OR yarrick. Platoons are a troops choice. If you want to include a platoon, you must buy one pcs AND two infantry squads. You may then add more infantry squads, more HWS and SWS to the platoon.
  
  CCS = HQ
  
  PCS+2 Infantry squads = troops
  
  Really, it's not that hard. It's all in the codex.
							 
							
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