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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/11/13 17:16:38
Subject: 1500pts Mechanized Guard Army List
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Guard Heavy Weapon Crewman
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This is my rough army list. Any changes are welcome!
HQ:
CC: Power Weapon + Bolt Pistol
Veteran: Regimental Standard
Veteran: Vox - Caster
Veteran: Plasma Gun
Veteran: Plasma Gun
Regimental Advisor: Bodyguard
Squad: Carapace Armour + Krak Grenades
Chimera: Heavy Bolter + Extra Armour + HKM
Techpriest Enginseer
x4 Servitors (x2 Heavy Bolters)
Chimera: Heavy Bolter + Extra Armour
Troops:
Vet Squad
Sgt.Bastonne
x3 Meltagun
x1 Heavy Bolter
Squad: Grenadiers
Chimera: Heavy Bolter + Extra Armour
Vet Squad
Vet Sergeant: Power Weapon
x3 Meltagun
x1 Autocannon
Squad: Grenadiers
Chimera: Heavy Bolter + Extra Armour
Fast Attack:
Armoured Sentinel Squadron
x3 Lascannon
Heavy Support:
Leman Russ Squadron (x2 tanks)
x2 Lascannon
x2 Sponson Heavy Bolters
Army Total: 1500pts
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1500pts: Mechanised Guard
2500pts: Artillery Line
Scheming
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/11/13 18:25:55
Subject: 1500pts Mechanized Guard Army List
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Not bad, a good mix of anti-vehicle and anti-infantry firepower, but only two scoring units. All of the units are pretty beefed up, you could trim them down and bring more. Not many units makes the Regimental Standard less useful imo, especially since your not really hoping for CC. Also, the vox will not be useful unless the vets have one too - or did you take that into account and just forget to post them here?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/11/13 19:09:41
Subject: 1500pts Mechanized Guard Army List
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Guard Heavy Weapon Crewman
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so do you reckon I should keep the vets and drop a few things or use infantry platoons. And yes, i think that I may have forgotten the voxes
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1500pts: Mechanised Guard
2500pts: Artillery Line
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/11/13 19:47:36
Subject: 1500pts Mechanized Guard Army List
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Witch Hunter in the Shadows
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You've only got 2 troop choices and both have upgrades they are suspect. What are you planning to do with them? The meltas and chimeras make them good for popping tanks. Why do you add heavy weapons and power weapons?
Techpriest? Why? Try a few games with them and you can see that unit is not worth its points. Armoured sentinels? Make them scouts and run them all in separately. They will be cause some headaches before they get popped. Drop the lascannons on your tanks and run them separately.
Dropping all the junk upgrades will free up around 375 points. Here is what I'd run, run the tanks and sentinels all individually:
(x2) CCS, 4 meltas, chimera
(x1) Vets, 3 meltas, chimera
(x3) Vets, 3 plamas, carapace, chimera
(x3) Sentinel, lascannon
(x2) LRBT, Heavy Bolters
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/11/13 20:27:26
Subject: 1500pts Mechanized Guard Army List
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Guard Heavy Weapon Crewman
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thanks, I'll keep that in mind, should I keep it like that or would you recommend anything else?
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1500pts: Mechanised Guard
2500pts: Artillery Line
Scheming
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/11/13 20:31:49
Subject: 1500pts Mechanized Guard Army List
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Witch Hunter in the Shadows
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You should tweak it for your own liking, remember it is yours! Just remember when playing guard that you want all your forces to have a role. Don't try to make a unit good at everything as you will make it good at nothing.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/11/13 20:59:38
Subject: 1500pts Mechanized Guard Army List
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Guard Heavy Weapon Crewman
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Ok, so how about this:
HQ:
CCS=50pts
1 vox=5pts
3 meltas=30pts
Master of Ordnance=30pts
Chimera=55pts
TOTAL=170pts
Troops:
Vet squad 1=70pts
3 meltas=30pts
1 vox=5pts
Chimera=55pts
Vet squad 2=70pts
3 plasmas=45pts
1 vox=5pts
Carapace=30pts
Chimera=55pts
Vet squad 3=70pts
3 plasmas=45pts
1 vox=5pts
Carapace=30pts
Chimera=55pts
Vet squad 4=70pts
3 plasmas=45pts
1 vox=5pts
Carapace=30pts
Chimera=55pts
TOTAL: 775pts
Fast Attack:
3 scout sentinels=105
3 lascannons=45pts
TOTAL: 150pts
Heavy Support:
2 LRBT=300pts
2 sponson heavy bolters=40pts
TOTAL: 340pts
ARMY TOTAL: 1435pts
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1500pts: Mechanised Guard
2500pts: Artillery Line
Scheming
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/11/13 21:06:54
Subject: 1500pts Mechanized Guard Army List
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Irked Necron Immortal
Columbia, South Carolina
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Are you limited by the number and types of models you have?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/11/13 21:15:06
Subject: 1500pts Mechanized Guard Army List
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Guard Heavy Weapon Crewman
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For this army, yes because I can only fit so much into a 1500pt game
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1500pts: Mechanised Guard
2500pts: Artillery Line
Scheming
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/11/13 21:25:29
Subject: Re:1500pts Mechanized Guard Army List
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Witch Hunter in the Shadows
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That list will perform much better! I believe that the MoO needs his squad to sit tight no? It may be better to give the CCS carapace and plasma. then turn one of your plasma vet squads into a melta squad. If you do that and drop the bolter sponsons on the tanks it leaves you at 1385 with 115 points to play with.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2009/11/13 21:38:39
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/11/13 21:50:42
Subject: 1500pts Mechanized Guard Army List
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Guard Heavy Weapon Crewman
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I've now done that, but the total was 1505pts, so I replaced one of the CCS' Plasma for a Melta thus making the total 1500 pts!
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1500pts: Mechanised Guard
2500pts: Artillery Line
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/11/14 06:04:23
Subject: 1500pts Mechanized Guard Army List
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Wicked Warp Spider
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All decent units, except why would you give carapace armour to troops protected by a tank? Even for footsloggers, it's an overpriced upgrade IMO. Another thing is the sentinels. I like sentinels, I think they're cool. I do think that vendettas are unfortunately better at using outflanking lascannons. (nice playtesting, GW!)
If you took a vendetta instead of sentinels, and stripped the carapace upgrades, you'd have enough points for another fast attack or heavy support tank.
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Eldar Corsairs: 4000 pts
Imperial Guard: 4000 pts
Corregidor 700 pts
Acontecimento 400 pts |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/11/14 16:43:55
Subject: 1500pts Mechanized Guard Army List
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Guard Heavy Weapon Crewman
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OK guys, this is my new list:
NOTE: All vehicles (except vendetta) have a HKM.
HQ:
CCS: 50pts
x1 vox: 05pts
x2 plasmas: 30pts
x1 melta: 10pts
MoO: 30pts
Carapace: 20pts
Chimera: 65pts
TOTAL: 210pts
Troops:
Vet squad: 70pts
x1 vox: 05pts
x3 meltas: 30pts
Chimera: 65pts
Vet squad: 70pts
x1 vox: 05pts
x3 meltas: 30pts
Chimera: 65pts
Vet squad: 70pts
x1 vox: 05pts
x3 plasmas: 45pts
Chimera: 65pts
Vet squad: 70pts
x1 vox: 05pts
x3 plasmas: 45pts
Chimera: 65pts
TOTAL: 710pts
Fast Attack:
Vendetta Gunship: 130pts
Devil Dog: 130pts
TOTAL: 260pts
Heavy Support:
LRBT: 160pts
LRBT: 160pts
ARMY TOTAL: 1500pts
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1500pts: Mechanised Guard
2500pts: Artillery Line
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/11/14 18:50:12
Subject: 1500pts Mechanized Guard Army List
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Looking real good. The only thing I can see is I agree that the carapace may not be needed for the CCS as it's in a chimera, but where would you put the extra 20? Sponsons or pintles for the tanks maybe...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/11/14 19:56:37
Subject: 1500pts Mechanized Guard Army List
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Stalwart Veteran Guard Sergeant
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Are you sure you want those voxes? Remember, units in chimeras can't take orders so you're paying 25 points to reroll orders when you'll probably only get to use an order once a game or so.
I think you should specialize the CCS a bit more, something like 4 melta or 3 plasma + medic (so they don't kill themselves) - melta is probably better because 2 plasma squads should be enough. Drop the MoO as well, they'll probably be moving in that chimera. Speaking of chimeras, all your guys want to be in melta range or 12" rapid fire, so you should build them with heavy flamers instead of heavy bolters.
Like Murdog said, carapace on the CCS is probably a little extensive.
Last thing: hunter killer missiles will only hit half the time, and at strength 8 they don't have a great chance of damaging anything but infantry.
With all the points you free up by taking those things away, you could give the naked Russ tanks something nice like plasma sponsons, or upgrade them to Demolishers.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/11/14 23:39:40
Subject: 1500pts Mechanized Guard Army List
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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He's right about the voxes... the hunter killers will be deadly if you go first imo. Something's going down! That many is expensive, but good backup for going against mech/armoured formations.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/11/15 05:44:44
Subject: 1500pts Mechanized Guard Army List
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Wicked Warp Spider
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Total points spent on HK missiles: 80. Carapace and MoO on CCS: 50.
I would cut those things, help yourself to another valkyrie/vendetta/hellhound variant. If you're worried about killing transports, choose the vendetta. Personally, I'd take 3 twin-linked lascannons over 8 single-shot krak missiles anyday.
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Eldar Corsairs: 4000 pts
Imperial Guard: 4000 pts
Corregidor 700 pts
Acontecimento 400 pts |
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