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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/11/20 09:43:22
Subject: Australien Attorny General once again refuses introduction of 18+ rating for videogames
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Dominating Dominatrix
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Looks a lot like the German situation. Our 18 rating is about the same level as everyone elses 15+ rating and we won't get any changes on that any time soon either. the escapist wrote: South Australia Attorney General Michael Atkinson has reaffirmed his stance against an R18+ videogame rating in the country, saying in a letter written to a constituent that parents cannot prevent their children from playing adult videogames in the home. Atkinson is widely reviled among gamers in Australia and, to a lesser extent, around the world for his unyielding opposition to the creation of an R18+ game rating. Because Australian law requires unanimous consent from all Attorneys General before any changes to the rating system can be made, Atkinson is seen by many as single-handedly ensuring that Australia is the only developed nation in the world in which mature gamers cannot legally play mature games. But Atkinson is entirely unapologetic; in fact, on several occasions he has not only reiterated his belief in his rightness but dismissed concerns from gamers outright, at one point calling them "R18+ nerds." It's a point he made again in recent correspondence with a voter who asked about game classifications, saying that it's quite possible for adults to find games that will challenge them without having to resort to "depraved sex, gore and cruelty." "It is important that you do not confuse the classification rating of a game with the game's sophistication, or the challenge or interest to the player," he wrote. "It does not follow that a game is more interesting to an adult simply because it contains extreme violence, explicit sexual material or highly offensive language. Indeed, with all the effort and money that goes into game development, coupled with the effects and graphics now available, there is no need to introduce these extreme elements. I am baffled and worried about why proponents of R18+ games are putting up their hands and saying, 'Give us more cruel sex and extreme violence!'" Atkinson claims that since almost two-thirds of Australians in "gaming households" say classifications have no influence on their decision to buy a game, he "cannot fathom how State-enforced safeguards could exist to prevent R18+ games being bought by households with children" and, once they're in the home, how they could possibly be kept away from youngsters. "If adult gamers are so keen to have R18+ games, I expect children would be just as keen," he added. Noting that he'll be up for re-election early next year, Atkinson said he will continue to fight efforts to introduce an R18+ videogame rating. "I would welcome advocates of R18+ computer games testing public acceptance of my policy by standing a candidate against me in that general election," he concluded. "I think you will find this issue has little traction with my constituents who are more concerned with real-life issues than home entertainment in imaginary worlds." Source: The escapist
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/11/20 10:12:16
Subject: Re:Australien Attorny General once again refuses introduction of 18+ rating for videogames
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Dwarf High King with New Book of Grudges
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"It does not follow that a game is more interesting to an adult simply because it contains extreme violence, explicit sexual material or highly offensive language.
No, but it can follow, which is the entire point of personal freedom.
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Life does not cease to be funny when people die any more than it ceases to be serious when people laugh. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/11/20 15:14:18
Subject: Australien Attorny General once again refuses introduction of 18+ rating for videogames
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Rampaging Carnifex
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Censorship is censorship is censorship. This guy is more likely to encourage pirating than "protecting" anyone.
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Dakka. You need more of it. No exceptions.
You ask me for an evil hamburger. I hand you a raccoon.-Captain Gordino
What are you talking about? They're Space Marines, which are heroic. They need to be able to do all the heroic stuff. They fight aliens and don't afraid of anything. -Orkeosarus
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/11/20 19:41:29
Subject: Australien Attorny General once again refuses introduction of 18+ rating for videogames
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Prescient Cryptek of Eternity
Mayhem Comics in Des Moines, Iowa
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Does he also advocate banning R rated movies as well, or just games?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/11/20 20:59:09
Subject: Re:Australien Attorny General once again refuses introduction of 18+ rating for videogames
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Shas'ui with Bonding Knife
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well.... looks like im never moving to ausi. have to sell half my video game collection
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/11/20 21:41:09
Subject: Australien Attorny General once again refuses introduction of 18+ rating for videogames
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Anti-Armour Swiss Guard
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You wouldn't have to sell half your collection.
You just wouldn't be allowed to replace it.
Besides, that one backwoods redneck is from Adelaide - the most conservative city we have (well, apart from being the serial killer capital as well. You'll have a barrel of fun in Adelaide). Unfortunately, the people with the casting vote on many of our such committees are people like him.
We have a ratings system for music, television and movies that goes up to 'R' (and several classifications for Adult material on top of that), but no 'R' rating for computer games. It stops at MA15+.
I've never seen game store operators or parents of children younger than 15 stop or deny the sale of an MA15+ game to kids under 15. These are probably the same parents who let their kids watch SAW/Hostel (which have a stronger rating on them).
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I'm OVER 50 (and so far over everyone's BS, too).
Old enough to know better, young enough to not give a ****.
That is not dead which can eternal lie ...
... and yet, with strange aeons, even death may die.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/11/20 21:41:54
Subject: Australien Attorny General once again refuses introduction of 18+ rating for videogames
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Killer Klaivex
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We don't actually ban or censor that many games here.
-Manhunt 1+2 are banned
-GTAIV was censored (I think, I personally don't play it)
-Silent Hill: Homecoming is banned
-The retail version of Left 4 Dead 2 is censored to hell
Meh, there's a few others that I don't remember. We're fine with film ratings though, except for X18+ (porn), which cannot be bought in stores in all states except for the Northern Territory and the ACT (I think that's the two). You can still buy it online or import it though.
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People are like dice, a certain Frenchman said that. You throw yourself in the direction of your own choosing. People are free because they can do that. Everyone's circumstances are different, but no matter how small the choice, at the very least, you can throw yourself. It's not chance or fate. It's the choice you made. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/11/20 21:45:06
Subject: Australien Attorny General once again refuses introduction of 18+ rating for videogames
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Anti-Armour Swiss Guard
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Legally you can't buy x18+ porn outside of the NT or ACT.
Doesn't mean that Adult stores don't have it for sale (they'll be in the back room).
You can get it by mail order or imported (depending on restrictions) - unless you live in Queensland. Sexpo doesn't even have strippers or allow the display of marital aids.
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I'm OVER 50 (and so far over everyone's BS, too).
Old enough to know better, young enough to not give a ****.
That is not dead which can eternal lie ...
... and yet, with strange aeons, even death may die.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/11/20 22:13:43
Subject: Australien Attorny General once again refuses introduction of 18+ rating for videogames
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Killer Klaivex
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There are still porn mags available around here. There's this fish-and-chips takeaway on the way out of Hobart with a rack of them next to the counter and it's really awkward when I walk in there and my vision just kind of... drifts away from the food.
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People are like dice, a certain Frenchman said that. You throw yourself in the direction of your own choosing. People are free because they can do that. Everyone's circumstances are different, but no matter how small the choice, at the very least, you can throw yourself. It's not chance or fate. It's the choice you made. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/11/21 00:34:49
Subject: Re:Australien Attorny General once again refuses introduction of 18+ rating for videogames
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Monstrously Massive Big Mutant
An unknown location in the Warp
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dogma wrote:
"It does not follow that a game is more interesting to an adult simply because it contains extreme violence, explicit sexual material or highly offensive language.
No, but it can follow, which is the entire point of personal freedom.
BAM!
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