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Suppose an objective is on the ground floor and a scoring unit is on the second or third level of a building beside the objective. Do you measure the actual distance from the unit to the objective or do you just measure the horizontal distance. Someone told me even if the unit was on the third floor you just measure the horizontal distance, so according to this a unit 9" or more away in total distance could still hold or contest the objective if the horizontal distance was 3" or less.

G

It is a 3d game, as far as I have known.
Measurements are made in all relevant dimensions.


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For example, I count my gargoyles vertical movement over enemy models, including the 1" outside of asssault (minus that inch on friendlies). On the rare times I field them now.

The rules tell you to measure from the base of the model to the objective.

They do not tell you to measure from the cylinder which exists in space above and below a base to the point that represents the objective.

Reasons number . . . 8? that hormagaunts are not worth half their points.
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That's what I thought. Thanks guys.

G

Bear in mind that each level in ruins are assumed to be 3" tall, so if your model is directly above or below the objective, it can score/contest.

Gwar I'd like to hear your honest opinion on this one young sir.

G

Cheexsta wrote:Bear in mind that each level in ruins are assumed to be 3" tall, so if your model is directly above or below the objective, it can score/contest.

Actually, that is not true. The examples in the rulebook assume that each level is 3". You are actually supposed to measure the real distance.

Green Blow Fly wrote:Gwar I'd like to hear your honest opinion on this one young sir.

kirsanth is correct

Thank you GwAr! Also the model in question was not exactly 3" about the objective. The player in question spent several minutes trying to squeeze in his model (landspeeder) on the ground the level but there was not enough room so he then placed it on a second level in the building beside the objective. It was neither directly a top the objective or right beside it in terms of horizontal distance. The direct measurement would have equaled at least the square root of 3" squared plus approximately 1" squared... So by calculating the hypotenuse the exact distance would have had to be greater than 3".

Gwar! wrote:

Cheexsta wrote:Bear in mind that each level in ruins are assumed to be 3" tall, so if your model is directly above or below the objective, it can score/contest.

Actually, that is not true. The examples in the rulebook assume that each level is 3". You are actually supposed to measure the real distance.

Indeed, now that I re-read it I see what you mean.

Ignore me, carry on

Gwar would you be so kind as to quote the exact passage from the rulebook? That would be greatly appreciated it.

G

Green Blow Fly wrote:Gwar would you be so kind as to quote the exact passage from the rulebook? That would be greatly appreciated it.

G

On which issue?

Buy a rulebook? You should be asking for specific page/paragraph references, rather than entire quoted passages.

Yes, if measure in 3d than you have to use (sorry to get all mathy but) thePythagorean theorem from basic geometry formula. A squared + B squared = C squared. If you assume all ledges are 3 inches high than he can only have his base or vehicle hull directly over it within 3 inches (hope he didn't have a super tall flying base of over 3 inches). If you had a ledge that was 2 inches in height than you can be like less than 2.2 inches away (like 2 and 7/32 away). 2 and 2 squared for both A and B distances would give a C value of 8 (4+4=8), which the square root of 8 is roughly 2.8, within the 3 inches to claim an objective. (Whew!).

The rule which defines the distance between levels as being 3" is on page 83 BRB under 'Moving Within Ruins'.
The rule about measuring diagonals refers to weapn ranges and is foung on page 82 BR under 'Coping With Different Heights'.

Thanks again guys. I did not have my rulebook with my last night. Cheers!

G