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In a recent game, I had an opponent claim that it was possible for one to assault through the gaps in an enemy unit to engage another enemy unit behind it. Is this correct? He claimed it was explained in the INAT FAQ, but I don't seem to be able to find it there.

If the gaps are wider than their base, yeah. I wouldn't know if it's in the INAT FAQs, but you can find it on p34 of the BRB in the first paragraph of "MOVING ASSAULTING MODELS".

The only real allowance is to ignore the 1" restriction on movement in assaults - and that is true even if the unit in question is not being assaulted.

These two just about sum it up.

It's not possible. Models in a unit must be no more than 2" apart and an enemy model must maintain 1" separation unless assaulting. Fetterkey this shows you are a total noob.

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I think there are a very few units that can maintain 4" separation. A conga line could get through.

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Green Blow Fly wrote:It's not possible. Models in a unit must be no more than 2" apart and an enemy model must maintain 1" separation unless assaulting. Fetterkey this shows you are a total noob.

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I think there are a very few units that can maintain 4" separation. A conga line could get through.

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If the unit has a horizontal line of models 1.1inch apart from each other, then an enemy horizontal line of models 1.1 inch apart from each other can walk straight through.

Makes sense to me to assault through another squad. You can assault through two rhinos that are that far apart so why not through a squad as long as your base fits through the others.

It's hard, but it can be done.

If two models are just less than two inches apart it's not possible for an enemy model with a 1" base to move between them. The models would have to be exactly 2" apart. Sure it is possible but extremely unlikely.

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Green Blow Fly wrote:If two models are just less than two inches apart it's not possible for an enemy model with a 1" base to move between them. The models would have to be exactly 2" apart. Sure it is possible but extremely unlikely.

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What? You can fit a 1" base model through anything larger than a 1" gap, not 'barely' through a 2" gap.

Green Blow Fly wrote:If two models are just less than two inches apart it's not possible for an enemy model with a 1" base to move between them. The models would have to be exactly 2" apart. Sure it is possible but extremely unlikely.

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I also have no idea what you're on about. In the movement phase, there's no way a base of any size is going to fit between even the maximum 2" enemy coherency. In the assault phase, you can fit through any gap larger than your base because you don't have to stay an inch away from the enemy.

Green Blow Fly, you're forgetting that the rule preventing moving within 1" of an enemy model does not apply during assault moves. So gaps slightly wider than the moving models bases will allow assaults through.

Can you please be so kind as to post the exact rule passage? I could be wrong but I'd like to see exactly why.

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Green Blow Fly wrote:Can you please be so kind as to post the exact rule passage? I could be wrong but I'd like to see exactly why.

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Page 34, 2nd paragraph of the page. "All of the models ... move following the [Movement Phase rules], with the exception that they may be moved within 1" of enemy models."

You didn't quote the entire passage.

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What else is there to quote? The part where you can't move through models, or gaps smaller than the assaulting models' bases? None of those are happening when you move between models...

You have to maintain 1" separation. I take the opponent did not also assault the unit he moved through. The rules are explicit about maintaining the 1" separation from enemy models not assaulted.

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as long as you end the assault move out of 1" of the models your not assaulting, its fine. there is no restriction on making assault moves within 1" of the enemy models. Its a bit of a weird situation, sure. but it can happen. I've done it to squeeze a terminator captain through a gaunt wall to take down a carnifex... its perfectly legal.

Where does it say that? The exact quote from my book:

"All of the models in an assaulting unit make their assault move following the same rules as in the Movement phase, with the exception that they may be moved within 1" of enemy models."

Ok, so you move just like in the movement phase, except you MAY move within 1" of enemy models. No restrictions here.

"This means that assaulting models may still not move through friendly or enemy models, may not pass through gaps narrower than their base, and may not move into base contact with enemy models from a unit they are not assaulting."

So, as long as you don't actually come into base contact with the front unit, you are able to move through the gaps between their bases. There's nothing about maintaining a 1" separation.

Green Blow Fly wrote:The rules are explicit about maintaining the 1" separation from enemy models not assaulted.

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Yeah.. no. The rule explicitly does not apply. You can't be b2b with enemy units you aren't assaulting, that's it.

Yeah, the 1" rule dosn't apply making it so that if someone, oh heck, example time!

T= Tau Gun Drone, P = Tau Piranha, and N = Orc Nob of Death!

P......P......P

T.........T.........T

N..N..N...N...N..N

Obviously trying to protect those Piranha! However, since the only requirement for the assualt on the piranha is you can fit you're models base threw the gaps left by the Gun drones, you can assualt the Piranha (just remember to shoot them, NOT the drones) Now, if you end up base to Base with any gun drone, i guess you are assualting mutliple units now (which i belive is required if you are b2b with another unit and the unit you originally assualted?) Eh

Okay looks like I was wrong then. Good to know for future reference. Cheers.

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It's possible. But make sure you (or your opponent) also follow all the other rules for moving assaulting models.

I find it hard to imagine a situation were one infantry squad assaulted through another, it is possible, but would require you to have paths through your squad. Some people might do this, but I don't think that many do.

Au contraire, despolier52, I do this all the time because of the tendency of people to do things like this:

S= Space Marine
D= Dreadnought

...............D.............
..............................
S....S....S....S....S...S

or this:
G= Gaunt
Z= Zoanthrope
G...G....G....G...G....G...G
G...G....G...G...Z....G....G
G...G....G....G....G....G...G

People spread out to minimize the effect of blasts/templates as an ingrained reaction, even when they aren't facing an enemy that has blasts/templates.