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So Next Wednesday im getting some warhammer.

im getting 1 warboss with powerclaw and twin linkes shoota
40 slugga boys and 20 shoota boys
10 regular nobs
5 meganobs
30 gretchin with 3 runtherds
6 deffkoptas with twin linked rockets.

Will Some body make me some lists using that 600point and 1000 will be cool...

And Also any feed back apreciated

HQ 1: 90 points
Warboss + Powerklaw + 'Eavy Armor

Troop Choice 1: 225 points
30 Shoota boys (use slugga boys as "Counts as" shoota boys)
Nob + Powerklaw + Bosspole

Troop Choice 2: 225 points
30 Shoota boys (use slugga boys as "Counts as" shoota boys)
Nob + Powerklaw + Bosspole


Fast Attack 1: 60 points
1x Deffkopta + Twin-linked rokkits + Big Bomb

That's 600 points.
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To reach 1,000 points....keep the HQ and troop choices, and change this:

Fast Attack 1: 165 points
3x DeffKoptas + twin-linked rokkits

Fast Attack 2: 165 points
3x DeffKoptas + twin-linked rokkits

Troop 3: 130 points
30 Gretchin, 3 runtherders, 1 Grabbin' stick

That's 1000 points. String your 30 gretchin out in front of your 60 ork boys and move them + run them every turn up the field. They provide a mobile 4+ cover save to all your boys behind them since they will make the enemy be shooting through a unit. Either scout or outflank your deffkoptas to handle any tanks or transports you might find at 600 or the 1000 point levels.

That's a pretty solid and competitive list for those levels.

Thanks man.=]=]

I would agree....good list for those points

listen to DashofPepper! he is really good with orks. he could be the prophet of Waaaaagh! hah)

I like the list, but I must ask if your models have power claws, or at least you have the means to make some.

I can make some cos i am bying two sets of boys with both come with nobz with power claws.

Any1 else wanna make me some lists

Thanks, Dashofpepper! I'll steal some of your ideas for my own list. But why go for deffkoptas in stead of killa kans / dread? Because of the mobility?

Killa-kans and deff-dreads are a mid to late-game threat. They spend a couple of turns marching up the field, and if they're the only armor, they're going to absorb a lot of anti-tank firepower. This is one of those "If you're going to take them, go all the way" kind of deals.

Deffkoptas are an early game threat. They can shoot rear armor and assault it on turn 1. If you get first turn, you scout move deffkoptas 24" across the board before the game starts. Presume its pitched battle and you deploy 12" on. You've now crossed 36".

Now, for Turn1, you have a 12" move. That's 48", or the whole table. You shoot rear tank armor and assault it (hopefully with buzzsaws). If you're fighting Tau or IG, you can also use these as T5 two-wound models to tarpit stuff. During a tournament yesterday, I had a single deffkopta tie up an entire squad of celestial thingies (Sisters of battle) for almost the whole game. They're STR3, and I'm T5, so they needed 4+ to hit, 6+ to wound. Not so much threat there. I finally sent a squad of trukk boys over to end them, and my deffkopta went free to go shoot more stuff.

If you don't get to go first....you can STILL take a 24" scout move pre-game, and then on turn1, your enemy can either spend their time shooting at it (still T5, so lots of help there) while you get a 3+ cover save....IE, all the fire being directed into the deffkopta(s) isn't making it to your army. For a 45 point model (Deffkopta with twin-linked rokkits) that's a fantastic utility!

Then again, you can always use them to outflank.

I... I think I see the light!!

Deth koptas can outflank and thus kick some crazy flank ass. For the grechin mob drop I say drop one grot and 1 rutherd. Also you have written "1 graba stick", grabba stick is the basic weapon for rutherds. I'm kinda confused about why you wrote that.

I recommend that you get Assault on Black Reach if you are a beginner. It comes with two small ork and SM armies, so others can play with you, and you can expand upon those models you get.

Although if you've been playing for a while, I can't really help you.

Zack gives some great advice:

AoBR is $60 and comes with half orks, half space marines. You can find someone who will trade you their orks for your space marines, and you'll seriously beef up your model count (not to mention getting more nobs, another warboss, and several more deffkoptas).

Find a space marine player, both of you buy a box, then swap marines for orks, for 90 (canadien) you will have a force to be reckned with. Or at least a force.

ive ordered my stuff on the way ive got

2 boyz boxes
3 gretchin boxes
1 trukk
2 AoBR ork sides only

And thanks for all the help so far.