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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/11/25 04:53:44
Subject: What does Frenzy do?
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Excellent Exalted Champion of Chaos
Grim Forgotten Nihilist Forest.
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Just a quick question of a soon to be Fantasy player.
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I've sold so many armies. :(
Aeldari 3kpts
Slaves to Darkness.3k
Word Bearers 2500k
Daemons of Chaos
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/11/25 05:03:44
Subject: What does Frenzy do?
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Avatar of the Bloody-Handed God
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1 extra attack and always try to run / charge the nearest enemy unit they can see ( i think )
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/11/25 05:08:36
Subject: What does Frenzy do?
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Omnipotent Lord of Change
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More or less - after you declare your other charges, you drop down your tape measure and check if your frenzied unit has enemy in charge range; if they do, you have to declare the charge. To which the enemy can flee and strand your dudes, or set up charges that pull your unit into fights it doesn't want to do otherwise (usually called 'baiting', particularly when the other dude uses cheap units to pull your big scary frenzy guys around). Frenzy also makes the unit immune to psych, and if mounted then the mount gets +1A too. - Salvage
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/11/25 05:15:01
Subject: What does Frenzy do?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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DOUBLE POST
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2009/11/25 05:15:30
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/11/25 05:19:34
Subject: Re:What does Frenzy do?
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Excellent Exalted Champion of Chaos
Grim Forgotten Nihilist Forest.
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Ahh thank you. and the "Banner of rage" seems to keep that from happening.
BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD!!!
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I've sold so many armies. :(
Aeldari 3kpts
Slaves to Darkness.3k
Word Bearers 2500k
Daemons of Chaos
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/11/25 07:56:58
Subject: What does Frenzy do?
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Killer Klaivex
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Some people think Frenzy is bad, but I think it's good fun.
It works for my pure Khorne WoC.
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People are like dice, a certain Frenchman said that. You throw yourself in the direction of your own choosing. People are free because they can do that. Everyone's circumstances are different, but no matter how small the choice, at the very least, you can throw yourself. It's not chance or fate. It's the choice you made. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/11/26 05:54:58
Subject: What does Frenzy do?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Cheese Elemental wrote:Some people think Frenzy is bad, but I think it's good fun.
It works for my pure Khorne WoC.
Your army is special. It has frenzied units with a possible 2+ save in close combat while giving 3 S4 attacks.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/11/26 11:41:01
Subject: What does Frenzy do?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Or frenzied chaos knights with a 1+ save and 3S5 attacks
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/11/26 17:40:26
Subject: What does Frenzy do?
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Never-Miss Nightwing Pilot
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Frenzy is good and fun but is annoying when you lose it. If you want to be really proffesional have a unit beside it to block its LoS to the heavily armoured units. Especially useful if your frenzy troops are low armoured and low strength, like witch elves.
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"The stars themselves once lived and died at our command yet you still dare oppose our will. "-Farseer Mirehn Biellann
Armies at 'The Stand-still Point':
Cap'n Waaagggh's warband (Fantasy Orcs) 2250pts. Waaagghhh! in full flow... W-D-L=10-3-3
Hive Fleet Leviathan Strand 1500pts. W-D-L=7-1-2 Nom.
Eldar armies of various sizes W-D-L 26-6-3
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/11/26 17:45:17
Subject: What does Frenzy do?
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Pestilent Plague Marine with Blight Grenade
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Cheese Elemental wrote:Some people think Frenzy is bad, but I think it's good fun.
It works for my pure Khorne WoC.
Pure Khorne WoC doesn't work anymore, though. Even ignoring all the problems with Frenzy, you're stuck with little-to-no magic defense.
Anyways, I always avoid Frenzy like the plague. IMHO, +1 Attack isn't worth getting baited around like an idiot.
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Triggerbaby wrote:In summary, here's your lunch and ask Miss Creaver if she has aloe lotion because I have taken you to school and you have been burned.
Abadabadoobaddon wrote:I too can prove pretty much any assertion I please if I don't count all the evidence that contradicts it. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/11/27 17:34:59
Subject: What does Frenzy do?
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Omnipotent Lord of Change
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MinMax wrote:Cheese Elemental wrote:Some people think Frenzy is bad, but I think it's good fun.
It works for my pure Khorne WoC.
Pure Khorne WoC doesn't work anymore, though. Even ignoring all the problems with Frenzy, you're stuck with little-to-no magic defense.
Anyways, I always avoid Frenzy like the plague. IMHO, +1 Attack isn't worth getting baited around like an idiot.
Pure khorne DOES work, a friend of mine played it for a year and had quite a decent average in the end - and that was warrior-based, not knight spam or something. He did go dragon towards the end for tournies and such, but the frenzied kr0n dragon pushes the envelope on the good/bad frenzy debate (as in, you gotta work to keep that dragon from committing somewhere less good ... but it is a tank, so meh?). Pure khorne however also gets really one dimensional, hence my friend selling the army off and switching to something needing some tactics (like all mounted TK  )
So basically, the more frenzied units you've got, the harder pressed the other dude is going to be to bait all of that somewhere and knock it out. Also I'm not sure what kind of armies you play or play against MM, but the ItP element of frenzy is a pretty important benefit too, that gets overlooked for the extra killing.
- Salvage
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/11/27 21:20:42
Subject: What does Frenzy do?
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Avatar of the Bloody-Handed God
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Boss_Salvage wrote:
So basically, the more frenzied units you've got, the harder pressed the other dude is going to be to bait all of that somewhere and knock it out. Also I'm not sure what kind of armies you play or play against MM, but the ItP element of frenzy is a pretty important benefit too, that gets overlooked for the extra killing.- Salvage
I agree! its like trying to scoop the water out of a sinking ship with a spoon!
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