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They had one planet, where they were all Necronised. There couldn't have been more than a few billion of them to start with, yet they keep popping up all over the Galaxy.

Do Necrons have a way of capturing and Necronizing other people?

The pariah seem to be necronized humans. I think this could hint at some methods to recrut new necrons.

I don't have any background material on hand to support this at the moment, but I'm almost certain that one of the goals of the Necrons is to convert sentients by turning them into psuedo-sentient slaves. There's also been instances where they've taken sentients(non-blunts) prisoner...

Didn't the Necrontyr control a fiarly massive empire in the galaxy before they made their bargain with the C'Tan?

Caffran9 wrote:Didn't the Necrontyr control a fiarly massive empire in the galaxy before they made their bargain with the C'Tan?

As I understand it, they occupied a single planet.

IIRC in the necron Codex it says they had a small empire but could never seriously threaten the old ones due to their mastery of the webway.

The pariah uses human DNA IIRC

Comes from the 'Pariah' gene which is what creates Culexus Assassins. Essentially they are anti warp.

Nobody really knows anything about "Crons so that's a good question. I think the whole point of the Necrons is that they show up mysteriously and leave before bigger forces arrive. They may be able to "Necron-ize" people but I think they can actually teleport around.

Well they basically owned the Imperiums space before humans were even created.

Their on mars too...

Kilkrazy wrote:They had one planet, where they were all Necronised. There couldn't have been more than a few billion of them to start with, yet they keep popping up all over the Galaxy.

Do Necrons have a way of capturing and Necronizing other people?

Where does it say that the Necrontyr only had one planet when they were Necronized? After reading through the fluff in the codex, it says that the Necrontyr expanded out by colonizing other systems, and then were pushed back to occupy "the outer dark among the halo stars".

It's all vague and dramatic and completely avoids telling us how many worlds the Necrontyr or the Necron occupied at the time as far as I can tell.

I thought I read it somewhere.

I took it that since the cause of Necrons' premature death was the unstable radiation from their sun, if they had been able to leave their solar system they would have been relieved of this disability and would not have had any motive to sign up with the C'Tan.

For the same reason I always assumed they only had one planet.

One you may not have taken into consideration is that its very rare for a necron to actualy die. Even if they destroyed in battle and can't self repair they can be taken back to the tomb world and repaired. Plus as C'tan are about as close to gods as is possible they probably have other ways to "recruit" more crons.

If you played The Dark Crusade pc RTS game that was officially ratified by GW.

A research scientist is killed when the necrons awaken. He is then converted into a necron warrior and somehow retains his conscious.

I'm guessing necrons vaporize your body and trap your soul within metal skelatons they create with scarabs. Kind of like necrons, but they convert only your flesh and not your soul.

woah...

That guy was a pariah though, a specific form of Necron made from humans. The question seems to be about the presumably massive numbers of "standard" Necrons.

The necrons did have several worlds, I was always under the assumption that their bodies adapted to their sun, and they had short lives no matter what planet they lived on, but they did have a empire of some kind

They desperately wanted to change their own genetics to solve that problem, and the Old Ones were supposedly able to do so on a whim, which made the Necrontyr jealous.... but the Necron fluff isn't put together in any sort of logical manner, so you won't see any concrete answer beyond very basic facts.

I would imagine the C'tan had some way of making more Necrons back when they were fighting the Old Ones. Considering that was a massive war, I'd say there were tons of them floating around when the C'tan had to go hibernate or whatever. Without leadership the Necrons went into hibernation also on whatever planets they happened to be on at the time. Dunno... just a thought.

IIRC, leaving their home system and star didn't make them live any longer, as they were genetically predisposed to die early, as Railguns said.

I'm mostly curious as to why destroying the Culexus temple would have been so bad for the Eldar. The only thing I can think of is that by destroying the Temple, the Necrons would have had access to a lot more human pariahs since they'd stop being shipped out to be trained as assassins...

Didn't a Farseer finally find the temple, but chose not to destroy it for some reason? I suppose it may be a sort of race to find all of the nulls first. If the Imperium keeps collecting and turning them into Culexus Assassins then the Necrons are slowed significantly in their efforts to make a warp blocking race out of the normally warp-empowering humans and thus jamming up the ultimate goal of the Necrons to enslave the galaxy as cattle to the C'tan.

1hadhq wrote:The pariah seem to be necronized humans. I think this could hint at some methods to recruit new necrons.

yeah allthough it's hard to find actual written evidence for that, i believe so as well. They are a cyberbiokynogetic-polymerisation (oh yeah)
of humns and necrons..

In the first battle against the imperium did the necrons leave their dead behind? The one where they fought the Sisters. IIRC they took their dead when they finished. So unless you loot a tomb world where they phase out too I dont think you will kill a necron. As they will just be repaired.

Also what are tomb spyders? some kind of beast necronised?

Tomb spyders are completely mechanical constructs.

Didn't a Farseer finally find the temple, but chose not to destroy it for some reason?

Yep, that's the story I was referring to. He was about to push the button, but when he looked into the future to check the consequenses, all he could see was his Craftworld in ruins. I guess it's better for the Eldar for all those pariahs to be in Imperial hands than with the Necrons!

Necrons don't exactly field *huge* armies... a few billion nigh-indestructible Ahnuld Schwarzennegers spread through the galaxy is still a sizeable force; I can realistically believe they are just the Necrontyr.

I think the problem with that line of reasoning is that people appear to be stumbling over tomb worlds left and right. It's hard to explain all these cache's of warriors coming from a single planetary population.

But Tombworlds arent homeworlds.

I doubt the necrons used their bases like other races do.
They wanted to sleep undisturbed, therefore choose less inhabitable planets.
Thus, a tombworld is sort of a military base.

Now any greatscale war, especially galaxywide, would spread a force over many strategic strongpoints.

IMO to stumble over necron bases isnt so surprising.

The descriptions of most tomb worlds don't read like small military outposts but large sprawling complexes housing hundreds of thousands, even millions of necrons.

If they are small complexes stumbling across them would be amazing. Small outposts, buried deep underground on worlds with little to draw sapients to them. It would be amazing to run across one, much less the multitude that have been found. Stumbling across this many of them, along with the descriptions, seems to point to them being very very large structures making their discovery much more believable. All of which clashes with the idea of all the necrons still being the original ones from a singular homeworld.

Thousands of Necrons probably does constitute a small outpost to what was once an empire that spanned several star systems that used such advanced technology as intertialess stellar engines and gauss weaponry to fight a race of psychic masters of biology that could appear anywhere in the galaxy through a warp-highway made of psychokinetic concrete.

So we cant imagine the necrons coming from a single source, but were willing to believe humanity started from Terra
and is now on millions of worlds?

The necrons had maybe more time at their disposal than mankind had ( is 40k 40k AC ? ).

You're missing my point. It's in response to the OP that if they did originate from a single planet and that planetary population was the sum total of the necron then the preponderance of tomb worlds being discovered and their size points to them having some way to create new necrons.

Tyyr wrote:You're missing my point. It's in response to the OP that if they did originate from a single planet and that planetary population was the sum total of the necron then the preponderance of tomb worlds being discovered and their size points to them having some way to create new necrons.

Raiguns or I ?

If I am it, no i dont miss.

The OP assumed necrons did not get any fluff covering their reproduction.
Humans do not need fluff to tell us how they reproduce ( i hope...).

But isnt the assumption, that a necron cant be the source for more just wrong?

A digitalized personality could be duplicated and used for several necrons. The main benefit from tech is the easy reproduction/changes youre able to. And necrons are pure tech.

I think we can ignore the argument of a single homeworld and move on to:
-how the necrons got their number up to keep the war going?

My point would be:

- original necron
- copy it thousandfold
- enough space robots to conquer the galaxy

You may not need the original to fight, but as template to create more.

Mutlipliers FTW.....