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HQ

Daemon Prince -155-
MoS
Lash of Submission
Wings

TROOPS

7xPlague Marines -271-
Champion, Powerfist, Combi-melta
2x Meltagun
Rhino, Dozer Blades

7xPlague Marines -271
Champion, Powerfist, Combi-melta
2x Meltagun
Rhino, Dozer Blades

HEAVY SUPPORT
2x Obliterator-150-
2x Obliterator -150-

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TOTAL = 997

I need some help with this list. I usualy play against ors, tau, SM ang IG. This list works only against SM and Tau! IG has to many inflantry and orks too. Last time my DP was KILLED(!) by normal orks boyz! It isnt normal... ;/
Any advices?


1 more thing. Which wings for DP do you prefere?
http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/armySubUnitCats.jsp?catId=cat1300205&rootCatGameStyle=

Ummm... put flamers in one squad and HLs instead of dozer blades. Last i would say throw in some vindicators in place of oblits.

Lose the Dozzer blades on the Rhinos, stock Rhinos work prefectly fine.

Plague Marine Champions are not needed.
Take one Plasma or Flamer squad. Try to not dump as many point into one squad so you can maybe take 3 squads. Two squads just isn't enough.

Lose one of the Oblit squads and take a Defiler, Predator, or a Vindicator.

You may want to take a different mark on your DP, MoS is only good for MEQs but against Tyranids or another high Initiative army, it's kind of a waste. Take MoN Because it gives it higher Toughness (6!). Try Warptime or Nurgle's Rot. Wings are fine (in fact a DP should never NOT have Wings).

This is my list, even though it IS a 2000 point list, it might give you some ideas.

HQ- Daemon Prine w/ Wings, MoN, Warptime (175)
Elites- 5-man Terminator squad, MoN, 2 Chainfists, 4 combi-meltas, Heavy Flamer. (245)
Troops- 7-man PM squad w/ 2 Flamers, Rhino (206)
7-man PM squad w/ 2 Plasma guns, Rhino (2 of these, 452)
7-man PM squad w/ 2 Melta-guns, Rhino (2 of these, 432)
(That's 5 PlageMarine squads.)
Heavy Support-Defiler (stock) (150)
2 Vindicators w/ Daemonic Possesion. (290)

Total: 1950 points.

The idea of my army is to have a lot of different things on the board to cover a lot of ground and not having a lot of points dumped into upgrades.


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Vindicator#9 wrote:Ummm... put flamers in one squad and HLs instead of dozer blades. Last i would say throw in some vindicators in place of oblits.

Nah IMO I think stock Rhinos are fine and don't take up too many points.

I agree with that most of the time except when it comes to hordes. You need template and blast weapons for them. Now to further what i was saying earlier if you drop the champs you get an extra 100 pts. and if you go for vindicators over oblits. that frees up an extra 50 pts. With the left over points you can take one of three things vanilla CSMs with melta/flamer with basic rhino, 5 man chosen with meltas/flamers with basic rhino, or 10 lesser daemons. If you take daemons you will have extra points for HLs.


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Oops 6 man squad of vanilla CSMs.


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Also meant to mention he was shooting for 1000 pt. list not 2000. You prolly know that but just clarifying.

nice copy+paste list

Try dropping the combimeltas for combiflamers. depends on how bg the horde you are playing though. Do you really need Dozer blades? Yes, your daemon prince WILL go down to ork boyz. Last time i checked throwing a big mob of boyz was a fine way of disposing a DP. If you are really worried about horde armies... maybe play an actual plague marine army and get a Nurgle DP with rot?

Jihallah wrote:nice copy+paste list

Why thank you, except it wasn't copied and pasted....

Right...

Your list is mostly fine. Drop the dozer blades. Unless you play a lot of city fight they usually arent worth it. In their place put extra TL-bolters on yor rhinos. It isnt worth re-arranging your list to try and fit in havoc launchers. Swap the combi-meltas on the PM champions for combi-flamers to deal with some more infantry. At this points level, two troop choices is enough, so again there isnt any point trying to alter you list to fit more in.

Dont take vindicators over oblits. Two small templates at BS4 are better than one big one at BS3. Oblits are also much much better at killing vehicles and MCs than vindicators. By the same token there also isnt any point takeing any other CSM vehicles, as oblits to every job they can, but better.

I would keep the PM champions because it gives your PM squads some much needed kick in combat, at which they are otherwise lacking.

Dont let your demon prince get charged by lots of orks. He has 12" movement so you should be able to stay out of range untill you have killed enough to get off a good charge. If you send him running up the battlefield without thinking he's going to die.

Finally I have magnetised pegasus wings on my DPs, because they're different to most peoples, dont make the model too big to hide in cover and are much easier to transport.

Regwon has it.

I personally am taking some Dakka predators in my CSM but that is the only god that IMHO Oblits can't do, throw 8 anti-infantry shots downfield a turn .

You could use some flamers in the list, but otherwise, you really are fine. Your list is solid at this points level.

My tactical suggestion would be to not rush the DP always, like Regwon said, and if you have to, DS the oblits and flamer bake the IG. Focus fire, focus fire, focus fire!

Also, don't be afraid to multi-assault with the PM units, you are so tough IG will have a hell of a time taking you out.

GL.