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There is so much irony in this world. I've begun to think that only a deity could create so much irony for man, a random universe just couldn't produce it. The only question that remains to me is what kind of morality such gods would have. I think God might be a manifestation of a sense of humor......what do you think?

I could go with the idea that all this is nothing more than some great celestial cosmic joke at our expense.

A random universe could produce ironies.

However, they'd be less fantastic.


As for the deities of mankind, if they had ANY sort of humor they're fine in my book.

Some times a cigar is just, really, a cigar.

My god is George Carlin, now thats explains a lot!

Cryonicleech wrote:A random universe could produce ironies.

However, they'd be less fantastic.


As for the deities of mankind, if they had ANY sort of humor they're fine in my book.

Yah, that's my only problem with the Judeo-Christian God, he's so serious, even though I can understand it sometimes.

Why so serious?

Hardly. Christ himself was probably hysterical, just think about some of the things he said. "Don't pull the speck out of your neighbors eye, when you got a freaking log in your own!" Paraphrased of course, but imagine that without all of our modern day amenities. It would be even funnier if he did pull a log out of someone's eye! I find God to be quite humorous, he did allow France to come into being after all....

JEB_Stuart wrote:Hardly. Christ himself was probably hysterical, just think about some of the things he said. "Don't pull the speck out of your neighbors eye, when you got a freaking log in your own!" Paraphrased of course, but imagine that without all of our modern day amenities. It would be even funnier if he did pull a log out of someone's eye! I find God to be quite humorous, he did allow France to come into being after all....

It was a revolutionary idea actually, being nice to people. I'm not sure it is right or not. Sometimes that turn the other cheek thing doesn't work for me

Grignard wrote:
Why so serious?

LOL


Anyway, if this was all a joke then this is my understanding.

Yeah, that sounds about right. If you're God, he cares for us as much as we care for ants. He enjoys pouring hot water on us, and watching us try and get out of the way. And the more interresting ways we die, the more amusing it is.

@Ketara: Wait, since when were you a MOD???

I think if someone has a mystical experience, I'm not going to judge. I'm still waiting to have mine,

I believe in a superior being thats all.
It can be called / named w/e people feel like

God , Deity , Aliens , no difference to me.

LunaHound wrote:I believe in a superior being thats all.
It can be called / named w/e people feel like

God , Deity , Aliens , no difference to me.

I still think that the real God is a god of amusement. For instance, I think it funny that many atheists are attached to empirical models that they believe explain the universe, when nature stubbornly resists empiricism.

If there is a god with the power to make everything better than he has one sick sense of humour. What sick person could get such a kick out of so much pain and sufferering?

If celestial being exist then it makes sense that they are in conflict with each other. Acting as a balancing force to one another. The idea of an omnipotent god has some very severe holes in it, as he could do everything, make it all better, but chooses NOT to.

Emperors Faithful wrote:If there is a god with the power to make everything better than he has one sick sense of humour. What sick person could get such a kick out of so much pain and sufferering?

If celestial being exist then it makes sense that they are in conflict with each other. Acting as a balancing force to one another. The idea of an omnipotent god has some very severe holes in it, as he could do everything, make it all better, but chooses NOT to.

Maybe the God just has different beliefs than you or I.

Emperors Faithful wrote:If there is a god with the power to make everything better than he has one sick sense of humour. What sick person could get such a kick out of so much pain and sufferering?

If celestial being exist then it makes sense that they are in conflict with each other. Acting as a balancing force to one another. The idea of an omnipotent god has some very severe holes in it, as he could do everything, make it all better, but chooses NOT to.

I disagree , i think the condition us human beings are in are perfectly fine. Our lives are what we make out of it ourselves.
Human beings are ungrateful and always take things for granted , how do we know to appreciate our current happiness if we never experienced sadness at all?

For someone , losing their limbs can mean their life is over and they wont feel like going on anymore ,
yet someone that is born without limbs or perhaps without eye sight can bravely go on living , possibly accomplishing more than what "normal" people do.

So i guess... its the spice of life?

Perhaps we should think that God(s) throw trials at us to actually make us reach our potential.

Why the hell should I try to achieve something if it's just handed to me?

Happy moments are in abundance and soon we assume its just part of our normal daily life.
Have we ever questioned whether we deserved all those happiness , or whether if we earned it at all?

Then the moment one bad thing happens , its the end of the world.
Because we already took it for granted that we are supposed to have everything going our way.

Good incidents , bad incidents , we cant take either for granted . They need to be both taken seriously.

I belive in a creator, but not some overlord. Humans have freewill. most everything wrong in the world anc be backtracked to man at one point or another or just dumb luck. Who ever got the ball rolling just takes a hands off aproach

We are our own gods, what we will to happen, happens. We can create life, and end it. Look around you everyday and realize that everything you do has consequences and affects the world to a lesser or greater extent.
We make our own destiny and do not need the assistance of some higher power to help us in fething things up royally.

All I know is that death is not the end of the voyage; some part of me will continue forever or at least until Slanesh decides to eat me. But until that time, let's party!

If there's a God(s) He/She/Theyhave a sense of humor.

Example: The platypus.

LunaHound wrote:
Human beings are ungrateful and always take things for granted , how do we know to appreciate our current happiness if we never experienced sadness at all?

For someone , losing their limbs can mean their life is over and they wont feel like going on anymore ,
yet someone that is born without limbs or perhaps without eye sight can bravely go on living , possibly accomplishing more than what "normal" people do.

So i guess... its the spice of life?

Good for you Luna. (if there was a sarcastic Orkmoticon I'd be using it)

You can go tell that to all those child prostitutes, orphans and boy-soldiers.

"For evil to prevail, all that is required is that good men do nothing."

Surely the same prinicple must apply to an omnipotent, omniniscent being? He COULD intervene in these matters, but CHOOSES not to. Why? If the answer if 'For a laugh' then he is truly a despicable character.

Emperors Faithful wrote:

LunaHound wrote:
Human beings are ungrateful and always take things for granted , how do we know to appreciate our current happiness if we never experienced sadness at all?

For someone , losing their limbs can mean their life is over and they wont feel like going on anymore ,
yet someone that is born without limbs or perhaps without eye sight can bravely go on living , possibly accomplishing more than what "normal" people do.

So i guess... its the spice of life?

Good for you Luna. (if there was a sarcastic Orkmoticon I'd be using it)

You can go tell that to all those child prostitutes, orphans and boy-soldiers.

"For evil to prevail, all that is required is that good men do nothing."

Surely the same prinicple must apply to an omnipotent, omniniscent being? He COULD intervene in these matters, but CHOOSES not to. Why? If the answer if 'For a laugh' then he is truly a despicable character.

if that's so I'm being a Satanist just to spite him!

LunaHound wrote:
Human beings are ungrateful and always take things for granted , how do we know to appreciate our current happiness if we never experienced sadness at all?

For someone , losing their limbs can mean their life is over and they wont feel like going on anymore ,
yet someone that is born without limbs or perhaps without eye sight can bravely go on living , possibly accomplishing more than what "normal" people do.

So i guess... its the spice of life?

The spice of life... really?

The veteran that lost all his limbs in a war is ungrateful, and not a severely damaged person? I mean seriously... how the feth does that work?

I sense a certain intolerance in you Luna...

Emperors Faithful wrote:You can go tell that to all those child prostitutes, orphans and boy-soldiers.

"For evil to prevail, all that is required is that good men do nothing."

Surely the same principle must apply to an omnipotent, omniscient being? He COULD intervene in these matters, but CHOOSES not to. Why? If the answer if 'For a laugh' then he is truly a despicable character.

Why do your human principles have to apply to God? That would mean that because humanity thought of something, and we find it acceptable and emulate it, and that God should therefore follow said principle would put you on equal footing with Him. I don't think that makes much sense...

@JEB_Stuart: C'mon, you have to admit that deriving humour from the prostitution of little children would have to be just a little bit 'out there' from the image of a powerful and loving god that we're told about.

On the other hand, if God views us as playthings, why should we feel any respect or affection for him?

A powerful, non-intervening being, that may or may not be taking action to help or harm us. I will call this being an alien to make this an even field. A 'superior' being in generals.

This alien who has the power to help, but chooses not to, is hardly an icon I would be keen to worship. If this alien happened to reign hellfire down upon us, and the only way to stop it from doing so was to worship it, then so be it. The problem with that, is the being is no longer a caring figure that I have respect for, it is an icon that represents oppression and fear mongering.

Remember, this is not talking about 'god', it is talking about a 'superior' being that is above us in every way, and has within it's grasp, immeasurable power.

Wrexasaur wrote:I sense a certain intolerance in you Luna...

Ooooooook ... guess i'll give another example? Im surprised you take the paragraph that way.

There will be some people that face hardship ( like ok someone broke up with me i'll go jump off the bridge later today )
and there will be some people that face hardship of incredible magnitude yet they'll pick themself up and bravely walk forward.

So what im saying is , how bad their life is , how much they suffer , and how much they can
endure , continue on with a smile on their face , a fire in their heart , a spark in their soul ,

can also be changed within.

@Emperor's faithful , i dont think you understood what i meant.
#1 If you see a war vet returning with arms and legs blown off , and he is depressed , you'll sympathize with him and think " cant blame him for been depressed"

yet

#2 If you see a war vet returning with arms and legs blown off , yet he greets you + he tells you he have no regret , he'll gladly shield all the innocent people with his own body .
Im sure you'll be feeling a different emotion compared with the first example.

We cant change our destiny , but we can accept our fate with different feelings.
How ever we can laugh against our sad fate and destiny and proudly be strong even if we suffered , like example vet #2

I hope i made myself clear this time?