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Santa Rosa, CA.

I was on another forum and the IC Pedro Kantor kept comming up.
Has anyone had any sucess with Orbital Bombardment ? I have only seen 1 posted army list that used them.
What special tactics are used with OB?

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Tactics?
Either he's in an unmoved rhino shooting out or on foot and shooting.
There are no tactics with it, generally it's point at something you don't like, stand still, and hope it doesn't scatter too far.

I find anything similar to OB sort of underwhelming.

Edit: What the poster said below me.

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I run Pedro Kantor and make use of his orbital bombardment, but it's never going to be the reason I take him. The OB is merely a little bonus. If it hits, great. If it misses, oh well.

In short, I wouldn't ever adapt my tactics around what my orbital bombardment does.
   
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I use Kantor and nearly allways use his OB as his opening shot . Usually choose the largest enemy concentration on the table and place it in the centre. Maybe airing it slightly towards the more desirable targets.
It nearly allways hits something and is often over looked by your opponent until you announce your going to use it.
The times when i have used it later in the game have allways ended in a miss due to scatter!
   
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Houston/Galveston

I can count the number of times Kanto's orbital strike has landed on target and done some good. The tactics for it is simple, point at something you don't like and shoot it with the strike. Use it as the first thing you are going to shoot in the turn because you can't rely on it and so that if it is effective you can redirect your shooting else where.
   
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I just bought Kantor a week ago and have used him in 3 500 point games. He was amazing; I won two and got one draw with a Rhino (stupid shooty Orks), but I never even had a single opportunity to use the bombardment. Pedro is better off moving every turn to take advantage of his ability.
   
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Kantor's OB can be a bit hit and miss (excuse the bad pun!) I nearly always make it his first involvemnet in the game, a nice S10 AP1 pie plate really opens things up well. It often misses the intended target but if you're careful in targetting this doesn't always mean it's wasted.

I've had it just make a big crater in the past but I've also had it wipe out a 3 man broadside team with TL Railguns, not a bad days work!

As others have said, not the main reason for taking Kantor but it certainly doesn't hurt!
   
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I have Kantor as the HQ for my Drop Pod Sternguard list. I have played about five games with them now, and have yet to use his Orbital Bombardment. He is always either moving, in assault, or dead.

Another thing I like to do with Kantor is forget that he gives everyone around him +1A. I'm REALLY good at that.

As has been said, his OB strikes me as an ability that will only get used once in a while, and is a nice bonus. Still a great HQ for lists with Sternguard.

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The secret of OBs is NOT to aim at a target with it but to aim in between several targets if possible.
The chances that it scatters is bigger then if scattering just a tiny bit so targets should be all around it so a typically ranged scatter drifts the pie onto a big target in most directions.

Works better for me since it follows the laws of probability.

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Pyriel is right, its probably better to target an area between two or more targets,
since the probability to scatter is 2/3 on average.
By the way, I faced several OBs in RTTs.
They never did any damage.

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Can you use orbital bombardment on the first turn

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Santa Rosa, CA.

The rule I looked at stated, that a piece of terrain is selected as a target before any deployment. Then it starts on Reserve. You have to roll to start the OB. Once it starts, it keeps shooting until the end of the game.
I saw a posting, Target the opponents objective marker.

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Wrong Orbital Bombardment.

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resinmann wrote:
Has anyone had any sucess with Orbital Bombardment ?


I'm a necron player and rest assured against non swarm armies, bombardments are a b1*ch
   
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Santa Rosa, CA.

OK, The rules are different. Makes sense, I have DH,WH that are older. I got the BT and SW codex for my marines. They don't have OB.
Should/May the DH and WH players use the rules from Codex:Space Marine. instead of their codex.

Can a BT and SW army have pedro as a HQ choice?

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@resinmann:

Should Not to your first paragraph.
and No to the second paragraph.

Use the rules in each codex by itself...so much easier.

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Everybody thought that Anybody could do it, but Nobody realized that Everybody wouldn't do it.
It ended up that Everybody blamed Somebody when Nobody did what Anybody could have done.
 
   
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Santa Rosa, CA.

"Use the rules in each codex by itself...so much easier."
I have been thinking about retiring the SoB and BT for a while. There are enough new codex . Thank you guys for the replies. Dakka is the best source of 40K information.

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My best OB kill was a Deathwing Landraider Kill. it was barring down on my Chpater Mater and his honor guard, and boom! wrecked it in its tracks.

   
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Santa Rosa, CA.

OK. There are 2 different types of OB. Newer 1 shot with Pedro. And there is a rule set in DH and WHunters codex.
This part is settled.
To Continue: Are there any DH,WH players that use OB? Does it work for you?
I did see a list of DH posted a while ago with OB. He would target the opponent's objective marker.
Basic tactic. would be helpful { Yes, this is the wrong forum for tactics.}

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Dont you nominate the piece of terrain to be shot at by the bombardment before he puts the marker, and in secret so he doesnt know?
   
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It really depends on what you mean by successful... It was successful for me, but it was my opponent who was using it. it just scatters to far to be of any real use


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resinmann wrote:OK. There are 2 different types of OB. Newer 1 shot with Pedro. And there is a rule set in DH and WHunters codex.
This part is settled.
To Continue: Are there any DH,WH players that use OB? Does it work for you?
I did see a list of DH posted a while ago with OB. He would target the opponent's objective marker.
Basic tactic. would be helpful { Yes, this is the wrong forum for tactics.}


and there is one who uses it, it diddn't do very well in the game, his gray knights did way more damage

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For the SM Orbital Bombardments, it'd be funny to put two Chapter Masters in the same group and let them drop them and allow you to do the whole flipping thing. Might help to better hit something.

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wuestenfux wrote:Pyriel is right, its probably better to target an area between two or more targets,
since the probability to scatter is 2/3 on average.
By the way, I faced several OBs in RTTs.
They never did any damage.


I don't think you can just target the ground with any blast weapon. Thought the rules actually state you have to target a unit.

   
 
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