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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/03 19:11:21
Subject: Big Choppas?
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Ferocious Blood Claw
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So I played a few games now against an Ork player who insists on taking Big Choppas on his Nobs.
My question is does the big choppa strength add to the furious charge bonus giving 7str?
Also, does a slugga + big choppa count for an extra attack?
He also includes a painboy in this group... does its special weapon count with a gun also?
Thanks
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/03 19:15:44
Subject: Re:Big Choppas?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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As far as I know, yes the furious charge +1str adds to the +2str of the big choppa.
No the choppa doesnt add +1 attacks simply because the big choppa is a 2 handed weapon.
As for the painboy, against Id say no it doesnt add +1 attack, since its a poison weapon, not a normal CC weapon. But on that one I could be wrong, and no rule book near me to actually look it up lol
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/03 19:17:43
Subject: Big Choppas?
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Ork Boy Hangin' off a Trukk
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Yes, the big choppa on the charge is Str 7. I don't think you get the extra attack with it since it's two handed. If I'm wrong, I'm sure our fellow Dakkaites will correct me
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/03 19:18:14
Subject: Re:Big Choppas?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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And as rudely as possible too
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/03 19:20:13
Subject: Big Choppas?
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Junior Officer with Laspistol
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Yes, the strength bonuses stack.
No, as it is a two handed weapon you can't get the bonus attack for having two one-handed weapons. Automatically Appended Next Post: KingCracker wrote:As far as I know, yes the furious charge +1str adds to the +2str of the big choppa.
No the choppa doesnt add +1 attacks simply because the big choppa is a 2 handed weapon.
As for the painboy, against Id say no it doesnt add +1 attack, since its a poison weapon, not a normal CC weapon. But on that one I could be wrong, and no rule book near me to actually look it up lol
Special+normal= bonus attack, as long as they are both one handed. It's when you get two specials you don't get a bonus attack, unless they are the same.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/03 19:40:43
Subject: Big Choppas?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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willydstyle wrote:Yes, the strength bonuses stack.
No, as it is a two handed weapon you can't get the bonus attack for having two one-handed weapons.
Automatically Appended Next Post:
KingCracker wrote:As far as I know, yes the furious charge +1str adds to the +2str of the big choppa.
No the choppa doesnt add +1 attacks simply because the big choppa is a 2 handed weapon.
As for the painboy, against Id say no it doesnt add +1 attack, since its a poison weapon, not a normal CC weapon. But on that one I could be wrong, and no rule book near me to actually look it up lol
Special+normal= bonus attack, as long as they are both one handed. It's when you get two specials you don't get a bonus attack, unless they are the same.
Hey thanks for that. Ill keep that one in mind as I use painboyz ALOT
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/03 21:27:04
Subject: Big Choppas?
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Lethal Lhamean
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As well you should, they are an awesome addition to Nobs.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/03 22:20:37
Subject: Re:Big Choppas?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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I think painboyz in a nobz squad is kind of like the PK to a boyz squad. You just take them.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/03 22:21:03
Subject: Big Choppas?
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Growlin' Guntrukk Driver with Killacannon
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willydstyle wrote: Special+normal= bonus attack, as long as they are both one handed. It's when you get two specials you don't get a bonus attack, unless they are the same.
Note that there are specific exceptions to this, such as power fists. The painboy syringe and choppa giving an extra attack is fine though.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/04 05:51:33
Subject: Big Choppas?
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Squishy Squig
Northern Virginia
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I believe that a painboy only has the one weapon for CC. If I remember correctly, his choppa and slugga are traded out, as a package, for his dok tools and 'urty syringe. In this case, a painboy only gets 3 attacks (4 on the charge). He also has no weapon to shoot in a shooting phase.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/07 14:59:10
Subject: Big Choppas?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Paradoxic wrote:I believe that a painboy only has the one weapon for CC. If I remember correctly, his choppa and slugga are traded out, as a package, for his dok tools and 'urty syringe. In this case, a painboy only gets 3 attacks (4 on the charge). He also has no weapon to shoot in a shooting phase.
Your right they.
"painboyz replaces slugga and choppa with doks tools and urty syringe".
In which case they dont get extra attacks in CC unless assaulting, and also correct on not being able to shoot. Obviously that little part was overlooked. Ill have to mark that in my codex then
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/08 16:56:25
Subject: Big Choppas?
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Twisted Trueborn with Blaster
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Huh.
Didn't see that.
Good spotting Paradoxic
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