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I want to use Swiftclaws in my SW force. Never used bikers before for marines, so I thought this would be a good time to try.

I have 8 bikers, plus 1 attack bike. Not totally sure how to equip and assign them.

Here is my thoughts...

3-4 count unit of Swiftclaws, bare bones with CCW/BP plus a Wolf Guard on Bike with Thunderhammer - AKA Thunderhammer delivery system.. (4-5 models)

3 count unit of Swiftclaws, one carrying a power weapon and another a plasma gun, and the Attack Bike equipped with MM.. for driving around and shooting things.

My problem with this is that the the darn Blood Claw Headstrong rule applies to them, thus the shooty squad is only good at 12-24 inches.... anything less under the MM 1/2 range means I cannot shoot it and have to charge, thus I don't get the MM AP bonus.

Would I be better off giving the melee squad a Power Fist in there, and letting them rampage around,and re-task the Wolf Guard TH to the shooty squad?

OR..

add em all togeather and have a 8+1 squad with all the options?

What would you do, assuming you use Swiftclaws.. (cause going the Thunderwolf route is just not happeneing for me)

Also.. feel free to point out what you do, give me some constructive criticism!

I don't consider Swiftclaws good at all, frankly. The Headstrong rule and reduced BS really hurts.

You can get around the Headstrong by way of your Wolf Guard w/ Hammer. The problem is like the above stated the BS/WS being lower on the claws makes it a very limited use unit. You throw a fist with the squad, and a leader with a Hammer in it and rush something, and that's about it.

I have a 6 man bike squad that has not left my case in many many months. I would suggest spending the points on Thunderwolf Cav, but there are no models or I would have a full unit myself already.