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Ok im new to playing the bigger games of warhammer 40k

I have been using the boxed maccrage set and i want to expend itno the normal game I have picked a tau army for this. I wish people to be crytical on this list I am going for an all rounder tau army to take all comers.

ok so heres the list so far

HQ

Battle suit commander (153)

Shas' O
Sheild generator
Hard wired drone controller
Hard wired multi-tracker
Hard wired target lock
Twin linked missile pod
Plasma rifle
2x Gun drones

Crisis battlesuit team body guard (94)

1x Shas'vre
Hard wired drone controller
Hard wired multi-tracker
Plasma rifle
Twin linked missile pod
2x gun drones

ELITES

X25 Stealth suit team (125)

1x Shas'ui
Target lock

1x Shas'ui
Target lock
Fusion gun

1x Shas'ui
Drone commander
2x Gun drones

X25 Stealth suit team (125)

1x Shas'ui
Target lock

1x Shas'ui
Target lock
Fusion gun

1x Shas'ui
Drone commander
2x Gun drones

TROOPS

Fire warriors (90)

5x Shas'la
Pulse rifles

1x Shas'ui
Pulse rifle
Hard wired drone commander
2x Gun drones
Bonding knife

Fire warriors (158)

6x Shas'la
Pulse rifles
EMP grenades
Devilfish


Kroot (105)

11x Kroot
1xshaper

Kroot (105)

11x Kroot
1x shaper


that gives me 998 points ( i think my maths is a bit wrong here) im wondering any improvements you would make


edit: sorry didnt get time to quite finish the list added points values for 2 units and added a few missing things

I dont like kroots as they are taking points away from your shooty godness. Use shield drones or dont use drones in your squads. Fire warriors are used as units of 6-9 with no upgrades or with teamleader in devilfish or as large squads of 10-12 massed up to form a gunline. Your only anti tank is stealth suits and when they get pounded you are done. They might also not get into 2d6 melta range. I would drop all kroots and all stealth suits. That gives you lots of points to deal with. First thing i would do is to take two small (4-6) pathfinder squads. They must have devilfish so that devilfish will be used by fire warriors. About fire warriors i would expand into 3 units of 8. With rest of the points i would buy couple of broadsides with shield drones and that thing that gives them relentless. I dont have tau dex so i cannot sum the points or say exact names of upgrades.

The list would something like this:

Commander 170 +-

Bodyguard 100 +-

3x8 Fire warriors (teamleaders, bonging knives) 270 pts

2x4 Pathfinders + devilfishes 320 +-

2x1 Broadside + shield drones 200 +-

Its couple points over 1000 so you may drop some upgrades etc...

Drop the Gun drones, take a Shas'El with targeting array, add in some crisis suit teams.

A Deathrain unit of 2 runs around 100 points. These will be able to deal with most rhinos and transports you come up against. If you take drones take shield drones. Your commander cna use the 4++ save for one wound by allocating it to the drone instead of himself. If you miss you lose a drone - big deal.

A unit of pathfinders would be helpful. Once you start the game the devilfish can transfer over to the firewarriors to move them onto objectives.

A good 1000 point lsit would look something like this:

Commander with Shield Drone MP and AFP ~ 125
Deathrain unit ~ 100
Fireknife unit ~125
Firewarriors with Shas'El and gear x8 ~ 100 points
Firewarriors with Shas'El and gear x8 ~ 100 points
Kroot x16 + 4 hounds ~ 150
Broadside x2 = ~150
Hammerhead = ~ 125 or 175 depending on weapon loadout

Hey there

I have some anti light vehicle weaponry on my crisis suits,

My fire warriors are only there to capture objectives the main stay of my army is the kroot and the stealth suits infiltrating / deepstriking behind enemery lines as the crisis suits and fire warriors lay down fire, the objective of the warriors with emp grenades is to try and get into close combat witha vehicle hopefully causing some damage.

I personally dont really like pathfinders, and in larger gamnes im goign to fill my fast attack slots with 3 squads of these

I do belive I need more heavy support I was thinking taking the devilfish off the second firewarrior squad and then adding ina broadside using the extra points I have left over for sheild drones

the omnipresent wrote:Hey there

I have some anti light vehicle weaponry on my crisis suits,

My fire warriors are only there to capture objectives the main stay of my army is the kroot and the stealth suits infiltrating / deepstriking behind enemery lines as the crisis suits and fire warriors lay down fire, the objective of the warriors with emp grenades is to try and get into close combat witha vehicle hopefully causing some damage.

I personally dont really like pathfinders, and in larger gamnes im goign to fill my fast attack slots with 3 squads of these

I do belive I need more heavy support I was thinking taking the devilfish off the second firewarrior squad and then adding ina broadside using the extra points I have left over for sheild drones

EMP grenades are one shot items. if a vehicle moved > 6" you hit on a 6. If it moved at all you hit on a 4+. Then you have a 1 in 6 chance for a penetrating hit and a 1/3 chance of a glancing I believe. Also basing your anti-tank on assaults is one of the worst ideas ever. I tried it with DH and failed miserably. Also - the Tau have the best anti-tank weaponry in the entire game - the railgun. You have a 75% chance of hitting a tank and a 50% chance of glancing a LR with it. It ends up being around a 1 in 6 chance of destroying a land raider I believe. Broadsides are worth it. Take them. Add some fusion blasters onto your Stealths if you plan on using them. 1000 points is where you have to be very efficient with your choices.

I would personally add a sniper drone team as i love that they have stealthfield generators. Also i would add maybe a Hammerhead or a Skyray. I would choose the skyray (as long as you have a thing madgigy. Lol forgot what they are called.) As you have rail guns with the Broadsides, they also have re-rolls. But in a way i disagree with people who hates kroots as i know how to use them well. (They are very effective in objective games.) You place them behind cover then jump out as they cant get shot up while in combat.

ok here is a revised list on advice from people i my local games workshop and people on dakkadakka


HQ

Battle suit commander (163)

Shas' O
Sheild generator
Hard wired drone controller
Hard wired multi-tracker
Hard wired target lock
Twin linked missile pod
Plasma rifle
2x Sheild drones

2xCrisis battlesuit team body guard (148)

2x Shas'vre
Hard wired multi-tracker
Plasma rifle
Twin linked missile pod

ELITES

X25 Stealth suit team (122)

1x Shas'ui
Target lock

1x Shas'ui
Target lock
Fusion gun

1x Shas'ui
Drone commander
2x Gun drones


TROOPS

Fire warriors (95)

5x Shas'la
Pulse rifles

1x Shas'ui
Pulse rifle
Hard wired drone commander
2x Gun drones
Bonding knife

Fire warriors (145)

6x Shas'la
Pulse rifles
bonding knife
Devilfish


Kroot (105)

14x Kroot

Kroot (105)

14x Kroot


HEAVY SUPPORT

Broadside Monat (105)

1 x Shas'vre
Hardwired multitracker
Twin linked railgun
Twin linked Plasma rifle


comes in at a total of 981 points