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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/13 08:20:53
Subject: eldar 1500 criticism plz
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Regular Dakkanaut
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1500pts Eldar list HQ: Far seer: 145pts Doom Jet bike Spirit stones Fortune 6 Warlocks: 336pts 4xDestructor Enhance Embolden & spirit seer Jet bikes Far seer: 135pts Doom Guide Spirit stones Runes of warding Troops: 10 Dire avengers: 152pts Exarch Blade storm Two shuriken catapults Wave serpent: 155pts Spirit stones TL bright lance Shurken cannon 10 Dire avengers: 152pts Exarch Blade storm Two shuriken catapults Wave serpent: 155pts Spirit stones TL bright lance Shuriken cannon Heavy support: Fire prism: 150pts Holo-fields Wraith lord: 120pts Shuriken cannon Scatter laser 2x flamers
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2009/12/13 08:21:15
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/13 11:38:36
Subject: eldar 1500 criticism plz
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Horrific Howling Banshee
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An ok list but you haven't got any real AT capabilities.
As I frequently like to point out bright lances are godawful.
Even twin linked one's have only a 1 in 12 shot at destroying a vehicle at AV 12, which means most times you shot you most likely waste your shot.
You need fire dragons and prisms work better in pears.
Here is my 1500 list just to give you a sense of direction:
HQ
farseer,bike,stones,warding,fortune,doom,spear-178
7xjetlocks,enhance,embolden,2xdestructor-755
Troops
10xDA,exarch,cats,storm-152
-wave serpent,scatter-115
8x bikes,2xcannons,warlock,spear,embolden-249
Elites
6x fire dragons-96
-wave serpent,stones,scatter-125
Heavy
prism-115
prism-115
1500
They are kind of similar and if you want you can replace the jetbikes with either DA and a serpent or with storm guardians in a serpent Automatically Appended Next Post: BTW 4 destructors are over kill, 2 is enough
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2009/12/13 11:42:00
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/15 03:21:51
Subject: Re:eldar 1500 criticism plz
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Regular Dakkanaut
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hmm i know the wraith lord is not very helpfull, i was thinking about taking out the wraith lord and farseer for 10 pathfinders being a second scoring troop, and with 10 it will be strong shots on a doomed unit, and moving the runes of warding onto the farseer on the bike,
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/15 04:00:14
Subject: Re:eldar 1500 criticism plz
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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too many points are tied into upgrades...
Take off the bright lances unless you typically play 2-3 landraider players. Change to either:
S Cannon - If fighting lots of AV10/11 and your not worried about keeping distance
Scatter laser - If fighting AV10/11 and your trying to keep range
EML - If fighting lots of AV12 and you like long range shots
The underslug Cannons on the serpent you may want to take off as well unless your planning to only move 6" which in my playstyle almost never happens.
Take the spirit seer off your single warlock, it serves absolutely no purpose.
My suggestion would be..
Drop:
Spirit Seer -6
1 Destructor -10
Holofield -45
Underslug cannons -20
Wraithlord Guns -30
Downgrade:
TL BLs to EMLs -20
Add:
Wraithsword to Wraithlord +10
2nd Prism +115
Point total = 6 pts lower then your current list
Walk the wraithlord straight up the field to attract AT fire and keep it away from your serpents. At 100pts it is a pain to take down and IF it gets in range it will devistate. The Serpents have EMLs have the range to keep you safe while still popping transports. the 2nd prism with greatly help with AT, Anti-marine, and anti-swarm.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/16 02:11:38
Subject: Re:eldar 1500 criticism plz
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Regular Dakkanaut
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updated list, 1500pts Eldar list HQ: Far seer: 163pts Doom Jet bike Spirit stones Fortune Runes of warding Singing spear 6 Warlocks: 330pts 4xDestructor Enhance embolden Jet bikes Troops: 10 Dire avengers: 152pts Exarch Blade storm Two shuriken catapults Wave serpent: 130pts Spirit stones TL Eldar missile launcher TL shuriken catapult 10 Dire avengers: 152pts Exarch Blade storm Two shuriken catapults Wave serpent: 130pts Spirit stones TL Eldar missile launcher TL shuriken catapult Elites: 5 Fire dragons: 80pts Wave serpent: 125pts Spirit stones TL scatter laser Heavy support: Fire prism: 115pts Fire prism: 115pts
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2009/12/16 06:53:40
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/16 02:39:52
Subject: Re:eldar 1500 criticism plz
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Esteemed Veteran Space Marine
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shinyhelmetman wrote:updated list,
Far seer: 163pts
Doom
Jet bike
Spirit stones
Fortune
Runes of warding
Singing spear
6 Warlocks: 325ts
4xDestructor
Enhance
Jet bikes
Seems alot better, there is just one thing nagging at me, this. No Embolden on your council, that could be very bad, very very bad. Other than that, seems good all around.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/16 04:25:02
Subject: Re:eldar 1500 criticism plz
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Regular Dakkanaut
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how do you suppose i can squeez room?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/16 05:12:34
Subject: eldar 1500 criticism plz
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Horrific Howling Banshee
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Lose 1 or 2 destructors or replace an EML with scatter laser
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/16 06:52:26
Subject: Re:eldar 1500 criticism plz
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Regular Dakkanaut
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a scatter laser will do,
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/16 14:07:31
Subject: Re:eldar 1500 criticism plz
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Looks good, it's a bit cookie cutter, but it'll definitely do it's job.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/16 20:46:53
Subject: Re:eldar 1500 criticism plz
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Regular Dakkanaut
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wat is cookie cutter,
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/16 21:00:30
Subject: Re:eldar 1500 criticism plz
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Cookie cutter means the "typical" Eldar setup. Nothing wrong with it at all, just it's typically what you'll see as the generally excepted very good mech eldar.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/16 21:37:38
Subject: Re:eldar 1500 criticism plz
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Regular Dakkanaut
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sounds good
ill probly spice it up after i have my"cookie cut army" for eldar,
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/16 21:53:45
Subject: Re:eldar 1500 criticism plz
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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That is actually a great thing to do. Once you win a few matches with this list you can mix and match with other things to give it a little variety and get a feel for what little twists suit your playstyle.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/16 23:08:38
Subject: Re:eldar 1500 criticism plz
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Regular Dakkanaut
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true
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