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What's the best way to equip champion CSM, and the Khorne Skull Champions? Mine right now is this way

Skull Champion w/ power fist

Aspiring Champion w/ power sword

I'm not sure where to go really? I really want to give my Skull Champion a power sword instead of the fist to keep his initiate 5 when he assaults. But i heard its almost "mandatory" to take a PF with skulls....

Is because if they dont take a fist a dreadnought or walker can easily tie the whole unit up for the game.


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Is because if they dont take a fist a dreadnought or walker can easily tie the whole unit up for the game.

In general: a fist.

Power weapons are 'functional' on Zkull Champions: only if their task is 'Counter Assault'.

wow that sucks yeah. makes sense. can I just bring meltabombs to avoid that? I know they kinda suck because you forgo all attacks but in the case when a walker locks me I can still use them right?

Melta bombs hit walkers only on a roll of a 6 most of the time. Unless you can get them en masse or on the cheap (which Chaos can't do) then they're generally no good vs Walkers.

awww, I thought the rulebook was 2d6 penetration+8 or something.

It is.

However, you need a 6 to hit before the 2d6+8 Penetration occurs.

ohh, is that ability based on your weapon skill? (because it's close combat) or ballistic skill? Or just a set number due to walkers?

Grenades such as melta bombs only hit walkers on 6s in close combat.

It's a set-number. The only Walkers you really need to worry about are Soul Grinders and Ironclad Dreadnoughts though, the rest are vulnerable to krak grenades. With proper support from your own Dreadnoughts, Daemon Princes, transports, etc, you really shouldn't be getting caught by enemy walkers in close combat. Skull Champions in particular benefit from Power Weapons because they can cause A5 S5 I5 on the charge, which can go a long way to preserving those Berzerkers rather than waiting until A4 S9 I1 attacks with a Powerfist.

What you really want on Aspiring Champions is a Combi-Weapon, so you have that extra piece of nastiness to shove in your opponent's face. There's something about having a squad of CSM armed with dual flamethrowers melting an oncoming Ironclad to really make your opponent rethink their counter-charge strategy. The extra attacks and regular initiative (I5 on Skull Champions!) makes Powerfists pretty wasteful except for squads in a shock-assault roles, and Troops shouldn't be wasted on such roles.

A Berzerker Champion makes excellent use of a powerfist because he has 1 more base attack then most sergeant/champion/upgrade characters, mitigating the loss of an extra attack with a second CC weapon.

Also, the Champion's solid WS5 allows him to hit much more often with his powerfist, making him much more effective against anything than a normal CSM champion with a fist.