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2012/01/27 19:11:44
Subject: Re:Possible gay marriage vote Washington(The State)
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Dwarf High King with New Book of Grudges
United States
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biccat wrote:
You're using ambiguous language ("strong position," "on rhetoric alone," "of any merit") to avoid committing yourself. The fact is, most presidents take "strong positions."
In using "strong position" I was speaking directly to your language. I could use the phrase "on really anything" as well if you like, but I prefer more precision.
Which is to say, the phrases "of any merit" and "on rhetoric alone" should be, and easily can be, interpreted literally.
biccat wrote:
I'm not going to put words in your mouth, but it sure looks like you're equivocating to avoid labelling the current president as weak or really anything negative.
I can make the same statement regarding your argument by substituting avoidance with "in order to".
biccat wrote:
You raised this to respond to my comment that his position hasn't changed. There's no indication that it has changed, other than the sufficiently politically vague term "evolving."
It was an addendum.
I thought that was clear, but perhaps not.
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2012/01/27 20:03:32
Subject: Re:Possible gay marriage vote Washington(The State)
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Warplord Titan Princeps of Tzeentch
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dogma wrote:biccat wrote:I'm not going to put words in your mouth, but it sure looks like you're equivocating to avoid labelling the current president as weak or really anything negative.
I can make the same statement regarding your argument by substituting avoidance with "in order to".
Yes, but then I wouldn't be equivocating, would I?
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2012/01/27 20:29:39
Subject: Possible gay marriage vote Washington(The State)
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Ancient Ultramarine Venerable Dreadnought
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Melissia wrote:mattyrm wrote: Hey you know, men and women are both as mentally capable, but men are far more powerful physically... so we kinda are better arent we?! 
That's why Colt is actually a feminist.
God made humans. Colt made them equal!
Woah, thats like.. deep dude. Colt is playing for the ladies team.
Well, as long as you lot shoot better than you throw!
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2012/01/27 20:36:27
Subject: Possible gay marriage vote Washington(The State)
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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mattyrm wrote:Melissia wrote:mattyrm wrote: Hey you know, men and women are both as mentally capable, but men are far more powerful physically... so we kinda are better arent we?!
That's why Colt is actually a feminist.
God made humans. Colt made them equal!
Woah, thats like.. deep dude. Colt is playing for the ladies team.
Well, as long as you lot shoot better than you throw!
I'd post pics of Genghis Connie obliterating targets at the age of 8, but it would scare the youngins on this board.
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-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
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2012/01/27 23:25:32
Subject: Re:Possible gay marriage vote Washington(The State)
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Dwarf High King with New Book of Grudges
United States
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biccat wrote:dogma wrote:biccat wrote:I'm not going to put words in your mouth, but it sure looks like you're equivocating to avoid labelling the current president as weak or really anything negative.
I can make the same statement regarding your argument by substituting avoidance with "in order to".
Yes, but then I wouldn't be equivocating, would I?
Per more stringent standards than those which you applied, and therefore per the standards which you applied, yes you would be.
The use of deliberate ambiguity with the intent to mislead is equivocation. Your use of phrases like "pretty much" necessarily places your argument in the category "ambiguous". I assume this was done deliberately in order to cloak a general argument of distaste in an ostensibly serious position. That is equivocation.
Of course, neither of us was formally engaging in equivocation, you just threw it out there because you made an initially weak argument.
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2012/01/28 07:56:40
Subject: Possible gay marriage vote Washington(The State)
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Rampaging Khorne Dreadnought
Wollongong, Australia
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hotsauceman1 wrote:rockerbikie wrote:
So I was born to fail.  Seriously, what is dragging down the ammount of college degrees for males is the annoying males who spend no time on study and all the time on video games and worthless things. It's no that females are naturally smarter which you are trying to lean towards, it is that there is a high ammount of pathetic Males who need to get a grip of reality. Gays are treated favourable comapred to a-sexuals. If a-sexuals came down the street full down blazing there choice, no-one would really be happy. They get to do things like this, when other minorities which are more oppressed can not do so, when is the last time you saw a Pagan Pride parades with people dressing up as Gods and Heros hailing different religons. People who I know, know me as a White Nationalist and therefore the LBG community does not even communicate with me most of the time except to throw an occasional insult.
So, Rather take a fact and go with it you make excuses to make sense and not give them due credit.
I don't trust interent sources.
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2012/01/28 08:04:19
Subject: Possible gay marriage vote Washington(The State)
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[MOD]
Anti-piracy Officer
Somewhere in south-central England.
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Not even data published by bodies such as the US Government?
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2012/01/28 08:08:35
Subject: Possible gay marriage vote Washington(The State)
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Dwarf High King with New Book of Grudges
United States
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rockerbikie wrote:
I don't trust interent sources.
Why would you trust any source? Automatically Appended Next Post: rockerbikie wrote:
Look at it this way, Western Countries are the only "Multi-Cultural" Countries on the earth...
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2012/01/28 08:12:50
Subject: Possible gay marriage vote Washington(The State)
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Rampaging Khorne Dreadnought
Wollongong, Australia
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dogma wrote:rockerbikie wrote:
I don't trust interent sources.
Why would you trust any source?
Books at least are more creditable than Internet sources. They are written by creditable Authors than random people who could make up random facts on the spot.
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2012/01/28 08:14:06
Subject: Re:Possible gay marriage vote Washington(The State)
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Dwarf High King with New Book of Grudges
United States
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rockerbikie wrote:...I have never seen a Straight Pride festival.
Don't watch much TV then?
rockerbikie wrote:
I have heard gay people insulting straight people because they are straight. I can't say Hetereophobic, can I?
You can, and it certainly does happen. You usual insult is "breeder"
There's even a Wikipedia article.
rockerbikie wrote:
I also need incentive other than justice for Homosexuals, I would have a slightly higher tax rate for gays that funds Hospitals and Orphanages for Homsexual Couples who do not adopt or have kids.
Why only homosexuals, why not heterosexuals as well? Automatically Appended Next Post: rockerbikie wrote:
Books at least are more creditable than Internet sources. They are written by creditable Authors than random people who could make up random facts on the spot.
Well, some of them are, and some of them aren't.
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2012/01/28 08:25:15
Subject: Possible gay marriage vote Washington(The State)
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Wraith
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Ugh, you know what? Nevermind. Not worth it.
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2012/01/28 14:51:36
Subject: Possible gay marriage vote Washington(The State)
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Consigned to the Grim Darkness
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rockerbikie wrote:They are written by creditable Authors than random people who could make up random facts on the spot.
Books can be and are written by idiots, cheats, liars, and idiotic cheating liars.
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