The End of Competitive 40k???

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**ClockworkZion**

So FW has thrown a lot more at the wall than I think anyone expected: http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Downloads/Product/PDF/L/lordsofwar.pdf

**Tactical_Genius**

ClockworkZion wrote:
So FW has thrown a lot more at the wall than I think anyone expected: http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Downloads/Product/PDF/L/lordsofwar.pdf

Wow...
That's a lot of D weapons...

**Savageconvoy**

Yeah. Now everyone has access to Warhounds. Oh, but Tau get an Orca, so I guess it balances out.

**ClockworkZion**

Savageconvoy wrote:
Yeah. Now everyone has access to Warhounds. Oh, but Tau get an Orca, so I guess it balances out.

Everyone but the Inquisition. And Dark Eldar didn't even get invited to the party.

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Oh and looks like GW is adding it all in. From Warhammer World's Facebook:

Good afternoon folks. A lot of you have been asking about recent additions to our games and whether they will be in use at our events here at Warhammer World. We’re pleased to announce that Codex Adepta Sororitas, Codex Inquisition, Battlescrolls, Dataslates, Stronghold Assault and Escalation are all now in use at our events here at Warhammer World, including Throne of Skulls, Battle Brothers, Council of War and many more. This change is effective from now and will be included in January’s events. We’ve updated the Warrior’s Code to include these publications; you can see it on this page (at the link below) and on the Games Workshop website http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/content/article.jsp?catId&categoryId=3500001§ion&aId=2200016a. Cheers all! Warhammer World Events Team

**Selym**

Looks like 'hound's back on the menu boys!

*prepares ultra cheese 9000*

EDIT: Quick thought - one of the few things that gets through the revenant is Vendetta spam.
That can be solved in two ways:

1) Bring flakka dakka spam to back up the titan.

2) Bring firepower enough to add to the Str D guns to remove the infantry on turn 1 (a 1750 or lower game featuring vendetta spam will not have that many troopers).

**Illumini**

ClockworkZion wrote:
So FW has thrown a lot more at the wall than I think anyone expected: http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Downloads/Product/PDF/L/lordsofwar.pdf

Where people not expecting FW to add every single superheavy to this? It isn´t like GW has held back with the ones in the escalation book, so I see no reason for FW to hold back either. Now more armies get access to superheavies at least

**MandalorynOranj**

People didn't expect them to add every superheavy to it. I know I wasn't expecting Phantoms, Reavers, or Mantas.

**Selym**

MandalorynOranj wrote:
People didn't expect them to add every superheavy to it. I know I wasn't expecting Phantoms, Reavers, or Mantas.

I half expected them to add every single model on the FW site, with some form of new rule that lets you take them in place of a SH...

Anyhoo, looks like the "meta" will be arsing around with these big boys for quite some time, until the novelty wears off...

**Peregrine**

MandalorynOranj wrote:
People didn't expect them to add every superheavy to it. I know I wasn't expecting Phantoms, Reavers, or Mantas.

Why not? It's not like you have the points to bring them outside of Apocalypse anyway, so they might as well say "sure, use it if you can".

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ClockworkZion wrote:
Oh and looks like GW is adding it all in. From Warhammer World's Facebook:

Good afternoon folks. A lot of you have been asking about recent additions to our games and whether they will be in use at our events here at Warhammer World. We’re pleased to announce that Codex Adepta Sororitas, Codex Inquisition, Battlescrolls, Dataslates, Stronghold Assault and Escalation are all now in use at our events here at Warhammer World, including Throne of Skulls, Battle Brothers, Council of War and many more. This change is effective from now and will be included in January’s events. We’ve updated the Warrior’s Code to include these publications; you can see it on this page (at the link below) and on the Games Workshop website http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/content/article.jsp?catId&categoryId=3500001§ion&aId=2200016a. Cheers all! Warhammer World Events Team

Lol. So, Revenant titans are legal in every tournament, but my LR Conqueror isn't. This is why you don't let GW run tournaments.

**ClockworkZion**

Peregrine wrote:
MandalorynOranj wrote:
People didn't expect them to add every superheavy to it. I know I wasn't expecting Phantoms, Reavers, or Mantas.

Why not? It's not like you have the points to bring them outside of Apocalypse anyway, so they might as well say "sure, use it if you can".

"Defiant to the End" pits a Lord of War against a 1.5K army. Victory is based on if or when the Lord of War bites the dust. There is no points cap for the Lords of War player.

Peregrine wrote:
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ClockworkZion wrote:
Oh and looks like GW is adding it all in. From Warhammer World's Facebook:

Good afternoon folks. A lot of you have been asking about recent additions to our games and whether they will be in use at our events here at Warhammer World. We’re pleased to announce that Codex Adepta Sororitas, Codex Inquisition, Battlescrolls, Dataslates, Stronghold Assault and Escalation are all now in use at our events here at Warhammer World, including Throne of Skulls, Battle Brothers, Council of War and many more. This change is effective from now and will be included in January’s events. We’ve updated the Warrior’s Code to include these publications; you can see it on this page (at the link below) and on the Games Workshop website http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/content/article.jsp?catId&categoryId=3500001§ion&aId=2200016a. Cheers all! Warhammer World Events Team

Lol. So, Revenant titans are legal in every tournament, but my LR Conqueror isn't. This is why you don't let GW run tournaments.

Pretty true. Warhammer World needs to just give up on keeping FW out because Escalation let half of FW's catalog in.

**Peregrine**

ClockworkZion wrote:
"Defiant to the End" pits a Lord of War against a 1.5K army. Victory is based on if or when the Lord of War bites the dust. There is no points cap for the Lords of War player.

And in the incredibly unlikely event that you decide to play this mission you can always just say "bring a different LoW, I'm not playing against a 2500 point titan".

**ClockworkZion**

Peregrine wrote:
ClockworkZion wrote:
"Defiant to the End" pits a Lord of War against a 1.5K army. Victory is based on if or when the Lord of War bites the dust. There is no points cap for the Lords of War player.

And in the incredibly unlikely event that you decide to play this mission you can always just say "bring a different LoW, I'm not playing against a 2500 point titan".

True, or increasing the size of your army to match.

**Medium of Death**

Trying to keep track of all these different conversations going on throughout 4 or 5 threads (slightly different take on the same arguement), is slowly driving me mad.

**ClockworkZion**

Medium of Death wrote:
Trying to keep track of all these different conversations going on throughout 4 or 5 threads (slightly different take on the same arguement), is slowly driving me mad.

Spoiler:

Then we obviously need to accelerate the process to make it work much faster.