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d-usa wrote: "When the Internet sends its people, they're not sending their best. They're not sending you. They're not sending you. They're sending posters that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing strawmen. They're bringing spam. They're trolls. And some, I assume, are good people."
The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
I'm so excited and at the same so scared that it will end like last film.
M.
Jenkins: You don't have jurisdiction here!
Smith Jamison: We aren't here, which means when we open up on you and shred your bodies with automatic fire then this will never have happened.
About the Clans: "Those brief outbursts of sense can't hold back the wave of sibko bred, over hormoned sociopaths that they crank out though."
Everyone on my facebook feed is so hyped for all the good guys/gal and I'm the only one all pumped to see Ben Mendelsohn as ( I assume) the main bad guy. Dude killed it in season 1 of the Netflix Series Bloodline.
"Sometimes the only victory possible is to keep your opponent from winning." - The Emperor, from The Outcast Dead.
"Tell your gods we are coming for them, and that their realms will burn as ours did." -Thostos Bladestorm
As always, it falls upon me to throw a bucket of cold water over this
I thought it was pretty meh.
A death star, a desert planet, a young rascal with an attitude problem....a wise old, jedi style master dispensing wisdom and advice...
Automatically Appended Next Post: To expand upon my point, the problem with this film is that you know what's going to happen before you've even watched it...
Sure, the details may vary, but the final destination is known in advance...
I'm not against rebellion stories set pre-New Hope, but IMO, it would have been far bolder, and more interesting if they had say, created a story detailing the creation of the rebellion from day one. The problems of recruitment, who to trust, early setbacks, trying to get ships and weapons etc etc
It feels like an opportunity wasted...
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"Our crops will wither, our children will die piteous
deaths and the sun will be swept from the sky. But is it true?" - Tom Kirby, CEO, Games Workshop Ltd
A death star, a desert planet, a young rascal with an attitude problem....a wise old, jedi style master dispensing wisdom and advice...
Automatically Appended Next Post: To expand upon my point, the problem with this film is that you know what's going to happen before you've even watched it...
Sure, the details may vary, but the final destination is known in advance...
I'm not against rebellion stories set pre-New Hope, but IMO, it would have been far bolder, and more interesting if they had say, created a story detailing the creation of the rebellion from day one. The problems of recruitment, who to trust, early setbacks, trying to get ships and weapons etc etc
It feels like an opportunity wasted...
A story about the creation of the Rebellion with Mon Mothma as the protagonist could have been pretty cool and cover more universe building. That would have been nice but it could also struggle with a meandering plot. The story of stealing plans for the death star has plenty of thrills, spies, commandos, fight scenes, etc. and fits into a nice conventional plot line. I can see why Rogue One was chosen. There's a ton of Star Wars stories that are better left told in other mediums than the movies. The movies are always going to be held hostage by their large budgets and the need to have big worldwide box office receipts.
I don't think pessimism about this will find much traction as long as the trailers make the movie look so good, quite apart from the high-level story ("steal the plans"). This trailer makes The Force Awakens, a perfectly fine film in its own right, look like a goofy cartoon for kids.
A death star, a desert planet, a young rascal with an attitude problem....a wise old, jedi style master dispensing wisdom and advice...
Automatically Appended Next Post: To expand upon my point, the problem with this film is that you know what's going to happen before you've even watched it...
Sure, the details may vary, but the final destination is known in advance...
I'm not against rebellion stories set pre-New Hope, but IMO, it would have been far bolder, and more interesting if they had say, created a story detailing the creation of the rebellion from day one. The problems of recruitment, who to trust, early setbacks, trying to get ships and weapons etc etc
It feels like an opportunity wasted...
A story about the creation of the Rebellion with Mon Mothma as the protagonist could have been pretty cool and cover more universe building. That would have been nice but it could also struggle with a meandering plot. The story of stealing plans for the death star has plenty of thrills, spies, commandos, fight scenes, etc. and fits into a nice conventional plot line. I can see why Rogue One was chosen. There's a ton of Star Wars stories that are better left told in other mediums than the movies. The movies are always going to be held hostage by their large budgets and the need to have big worldwide box office receipts.
I appreciate the fact that Star Wars films will never be 18+ ratings for obvious reasons, but we also know that the Star Wars brand means that this film will probably make a gazillion pounds/dollars when it comes out.
They can afford to take risks. As an American company, they only have to look at their own history for a ready made story - American revolution.
We all know about the divided loyalties, brother against brother, the agony of choosing sides, and this could have provided excellent stories for this film - people facing the difficult decision of joining the Rebel Alliance or the Empire...already, you have ready made plot themes and ideas...
Is Darth Vader going to be 2-D villian, or will he show a small spark of humanity left? A twinge of regret...
After all, Palpatine promised him that he could save Natalie Portman, but it never happened...Vader might be a bit mad at the Emperor for that...
And what about Obi-Wan? Is he really going to hide in a cave until a New Hope, or is he tempted to help out the rebellion? Not openly, but maybe a legion of the damned, covert style help...
So much potential...
I could go like this for a while, but it feels like an opportunity wasted...
"Our crops will wither, our children will die piteous
deaths and the sun will be swept from the sky. But is it true?" - Tom Kirby, CEO, Games Workshop Ltd
Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote: I appreciate the fact that Star Wars films will never be 18+ ratings for obvious reasons, but we also know that the Star Wars brand means that this film will probably make a gazillion pounds/dollars when it comes out.
They can afford to take risks. As an American company, they only have to look at their own history for a ready made story - American revolution.
This movie already is a risk. It's the first theatrical release that isn't part of the original Star Wars story and it's full of a bunch of new characters that no one has ever heard of. Right now, we know of two characters from the main story that will appear, Mon Mothma and Darth Vader, and only one of which signals Star Wars to the average movie goer. Take the average person and ask them who Mon Mothma is and most people won't have a clue and we've been told that Vader isn't the main villain of the story, so it will likely focus on the other characters.
We all know about the divided loyalties, brother against brother, the agony of choosing sides, and this could have provided excellent stories for this film - people facing the difficult decision of joining the Rebel Alliance or the Empire...already, you have ready made plot themes and ideas...
Yeah, except that sounds too talky and boring as feth. Remember how we sat through movies dedicated to how the Empire arose from the Republic? It wasn't fun.
So much potential...
I could go like this for a while, but it feels like an opportunity wasted...
You do realize that this movie isn't out yet, right? It's pretty hard to say that this movie is essentially a failure and a wasted opportunity given that we've seen a couple of minutes of out-of-context footage.
d-usa wrote: "When the Internet sends its people, they're not sending their best. They're not sending you. They're not sending you. They're sending posters that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing strawmen. They're bringing spam. They're trolls. And some, I assume, are good people."
n'oublie jamais - It appears I now have to highlight this again.
It is by tea alone I set my mind in motion. By the juice of the brew my thoughts aquire speed, my mind becomes strained, the strain becomes a warning. It is by tea alone I set my mind in motion.
Miguelsan wrote: I'm so excited and at the same so scared that it will end like last film.
M.
Technically it should end just before the first (chronologically made) film. With the Tantive IV getting 'sploded over Tattooine (yes, they destroyed it after capturing/interrogating the crew).
I'm OVER 50 (and so far over everyone's BS, too).
Old enough to know better, young enough to not give a ****.
That is not dead which can eternal lie ...
... and yet, with strange aeons, even death may die.
Anyone know anything about these new desert camo Storm troopers? The 'sand troopers'? I was under the impression that sand troopers were ordinary stormtroopers with extra gear, like we saw in episode IV. So who are these new guys?
The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
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2016/10/13 16:20:04
Subject: Re:Star Wars : Rogue One p10 -- new Oct trailer
Around 1:43-1:45 there are Y-Wings intermixed with X-Wings during the strafing runs in the canyon.
And while I hate this answer (mine not Kanluwen's) as I am not of fan of extra-source explanations so that one has to buy outside material to understand a thing apparently in one of the lead ups or adaptations to TFA it was said most of the y-wings were near the capitol when it was destroyed thus destroying most of the Y-Wings. The reason the X-Wings we see are painted differently is because they are given/loaned to the resistance by the government, which has/had the majority of the old fleet (A-Wing, Y-Wing, X-Wing, and B-Wing).
Amidst the mists and coldest frosts he thrusts his fists against the posts and still insists he sees the ghosts.
Emperor's Eagles (undergoing Chapter reorganization)
Caledonian 95th (undergoing regimental reorganization)
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