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BaconCatBug, the next Warhammer game you play, could you stream it? I really want to see how you 100% RAW, no items, SM only warhammer looks like.

 BaconCatBug wrote:

HoundsofDemos wrote:
Slightly off topic but Marsh v. Alabama wouldn't really apply in this situation. There is a massive difference to handing out pamphlets on a public sidewalk and entering the inside of a private business and engaging in activities that the owner and other patrons find offensive.

Now now, you can't be applying "technicalities" or "intent of the law" here, that's TFG behaviour!

This is actually a great example; it's not what you're doing, but how and why.

Applying "technicalities" or "intent of the law" to force an emotionally distraught descendant of a Concentration Camp "guest" to play against the Third Reich army listed above is certainly TFG behavior.
Applying "technicalities" or "intent of the law" to stop someone from forcing an emotionally distraught descendant of a Concentration Camp "guest" to play against the Third Reich army listed above is certainly not behavior.

Similarly, consider someone giving a candybar to their opponent; probably not TFG behavior. But if the guy's doing it because they know their opponent is dieting/diabetic/allergic/fasting/whatever, it's probably TFG behavior.

You seem to keep thinking I don't know what TFG behaviour is. I do know it, I just disagree that following the rules can be considered TFG behaviour.

There are no rules forcing people to play 40k, there are rules saying that in 40k, if you advance you may not select the unit to shoot.

 Galas wrote:
BaconCatBug, the next Warhammer game you play, could you stream it? I really want to see how you 100% RAW, no items, SM only warhammer looks like.

As he’s said in this thread, he doesn’t actually play games in real life

He just hangs around a forum entitled, essentially, ‘how would you play it?’ yelling ‘by the absolute letter of the RAW, according to my definition, which makes the game impossible, but that’s still how I’d play it’ again and again, pointlessly into the void, not actually helping in any way.

A speed bump in any thread, yelling without helping anyone, asserting he’s right without really contributing to the point. A series of posts you have gloss over or avoid if you want a workable, sensible answer to your question.

Like GWAR before him, and Stelek before that. Eventually, they all get bored of asserting themselves to nobody and go away.

A RAW argument is not very helpful in this case. GW used to try to mandate how everybody played in terms of WYSIWYG, but I think they realized that they do not control what happens out in the wild. Now they leave it up to us, as it always was.

Playing a miniatures games requires a certain amount of "give and take" with your opponent, the rules, the miniatures and the board. Its not an exact science and its not for everybody. I have read some "reductio ad absurdum" arguments in this thread that are also not helpful. I've played around 100 real game of 40K since 8th dropped - by real I mean against a real opponent on a real table with real miniatures. We get plenty of folks from out of town at our local tournaments since we are roughly two hours from three major cities with four-lane highway access, four cities if you include the USA. I cannot recall a real rules dispute from the Core rules after we had digested the 8th edition ruleset. There have been a few over Stratagems and unit rules when a Codex comes out. Otherwise we seem to have consensus on the core rules (and we shoot Assault Weapons after advancing every time).

There are differences over WYSIWYG and painting requirements. These are resolved through interpersonal skills in pick-up games and by the tourney pack for tournaments. The point is that there is a variety of standards world-wide regarding WYSIWYG. They are all valid, and its up to each community and TO to set and enforce those standards. Its not up to GW to set those standards, although they can certainly influence the community standard with what they do at WHW.

This thread got really rule breaking, really quickly and is now locked. Please bear in mind in the future that being polite and staying on topic are not optional extras but are in fact the rules.
Thanks,
ingtaer.