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I have a friend that is utterly confused by the free game at GW in the mall. He wants a tutorial step by step on line to follow. I tried to help but he is a gunner's mate and wants to figure it out on his own...with help from no one. Any suggestions?

beg,borrow,buy,steal a rule book..... I have the same problem with new plays at our local club, the GW shops seem to miss out core rules, but thats just to make the game exciting for the player, if he can get hold of a rule book.. read it then try and organize a small game with him......

Yea the idea of the free game is more to hook a potential player, than to teach the real rules.

Have you tried teaching him? If nothing else you can get a black reach rule book for $5 on ebay.

The ONLY rule for the demo game is this:

"The four F's: Fast, Furious, Fun, and Fours."
This means the the demo should not take more the 5 min's (Fast), lots of models should die (Furious), the customer being demo'd ALWAYS wins (Fun), and evrything requires a 4+ to succeed, hits and wounds being the norm, armor saves aren't part of a demo (Fours).

It's the third one that will sometimes screw up the customer when they go to play their first real game, as if the dice go badly for them the demonstrator will have to make up stuff as he goes a long to balance this out (and make sure the customer wins): "Oh man you're down to your last Space Marine! Enraged by his brothers' deaths he now only requires a 3+ to hit and to wound, and he can ignore his own wounds on 2 or better!"

It's better to get the customer fired up for the game and out the door with a AoBR set in his hands, than try to teach him the correct rules; The demo shows a person how the turns work (Movement, Shooting, Assault) and the basic roll to hit, then roll to wound mechanic. With this concept down, the rest of the game kinda just falls into place, especially when they work their way up through the starter rules in AoBR.

I dunno , find someone that can use AOBR Marines or Ork miniatures ( unless your friend is interested ) and just borrow the extra rule book from it.

The AoBR A4 pamphlet is the best way to go.

Also get your GW to give an advanced intro once your friend has some modelsw - or borrows yours. That is a good way to learn core rules - our GW ensures you learn this.

Thanks guys, I owe you a few pints. He is just a stubborn dude. He thinks reading the whole rule book 40K and fantasy cover to cover will help him out. LOL! I'll pass on your info-

Petty Officer D wrote:Thanks guys, I owe you a few pints. He is just a stubborn dude. He thinks reading the whole rule book 40K and fantasy cover to cover will help him out. LOL! I'll pass on your info-

It could o_o why wouldnt it?
Different people absorbs info differently after all.

reading demo games from the white dwarfs can help also if he is totally against someone showing him

The ONLY rule for the demo game is this:

"The four F's: Fast, Furious, Fun, and Fours."
This means the the demo should not take more the 5 min's (Fast), lots of models should die (Furious), the customer being demo'd ALWAYS wins (Fun), and evrything requires a 4+ to succeed, hits and wounds being the norm, armor saves aren't part of a demo (Fours).

It's the third one that will sometimes screw up the customer when they go to play their first real game, as if the dice go badly for them the demonstrator will have to make up stuff as he goes a long to balance this out (and make sure the customer wins): "Oh man you're down to your last Space Marine! Enraged by his brothers' deaths he now only requires a 3+ to hit and to wound, and he can ignore his own wounds on 2 or better!"

It's better to get the customer fired up for the game and out the door with a AoBR set in his hands, than try to teach him the correct rules; The demo shows a person how the turns work (Movement, Shooting, Assault) and the basic roll to hit, then roll to wound mechanic. With this concept down, the rest of the game kinda just falls into place, especially when they work their way up through the starter rules in AoBR.

Thats exactly right, you must also have been / are a redshirt.

Clthomps wrote:

The ONLY rule for the demo game is this:

"The four F's: Fast, Furious, Fun, and Fours."
This means the the demo should not take more the 5 min's (Fast), lots of models should die (Furious), the customer being demo'd ALWAYS wins (Fun), and evrything requires a 4+ to succeed, hits and wounds being the norm, armor saves aren't part of a demo (Fours).

It's the third one that will sometimes screw up the customer when they go to play their first real game, as if the dice go badly for them the demonstrator will have to make up stuff as he goes a long to balance this out (and make sure the customer wins): "Oh man you're down to your last Space Marine! Enraged by his brothers' deaths he now only requires a 3+ to hit and to wound, and he can ignore his own wounds on 2 or better!"

It's better to get the customer fired up for the game and out the door with a AoBR set in his hands, than try to teach him the correct rules; The demo shows a person how the turns work (Movement, Shooting, Assault) and the basic roll to hit, then roll to wound mechanic. With this concept down, the rest of the game kinda just falls into place, especially when they work their way up through the starter rules in AoBR.

Thats exactly right, you must also have been / are a redshirt.

No, but I do know several people who work for GW, and I specifically went to the Bunker in Memphis and had them teach me how to demo their products when we opened our store there.

The little AoBR pamphlet is great for just learning a simplified version of the Core Rules. That, and AoBR comes with a BGB. See if he's interested in that.

The update on my gunner friend. He has read the rule book cover to cover, so he says four times, and still refusef to get the free game. I know people all learn in different ways, so I am just going to let him do his thing.
THANKS!

If he likes flowcharts then this might help him:

http://www.mediafire.com/i/?oi0mytbk0k2