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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/27 07:43:08
Subject: Land Raider Crusader in 1000pt game?
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Swift Swooping Hawk
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Just like the title says, that's what Im curious about. I realize it's a chunk of points out of the army, about a quarter, but is it worth it? I was planning on running either a Space Marine Battle Force or the Assault on Black Reach models as my core 500ish points to start, and go from there.
Any thoughts?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/27 08:06:42
Subject: Land Raider Crusader in 1000pt game?
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Ladies Love the Vibro-Cannon Operator
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Well, an lRC in 1000 pt games is nearly indestructable.
I find it a bit cheesy.
Consider the following list:
Librarian w/ terminator armor, storm shield, nullzone, avenger - 140
10 Termies - 400
10 Tactical Marines w/ ml, flamer - 170
10 Tactical Marines w/ ml, flamer - 170
Take Scouts for the remaining points.
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Former moderator 40kOnline
Lanchester's square law - please obey in list building!
Illumini: "And thank you for not finishing your post with a " " I'm sorry, but after 7200 's that has to be the most annoying sign-off ever."
Armies: Eldar, Necrons, Blood Angels, Grey Knights; World Eaters (30k); Bloodbound; Cryx, Circle, Cyriss |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/27 08:14:02
Subject: Land Raider Crusader in 1000pt game?
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Stalwart Veteran Guard Sergeant
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A Land Raider at that point level, to paraphrase what another user said (I sadly don't remember who), is like a list check. If you opponent can't handle it, you win. If they can, it's now your 750 against their 10
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If your regular opponents aren't prepared, go ahead and do it to see the looks on their faces. I personally play guard, with 2 manticores and 2 units of meltavets at 1k, so I'd be happy to play against you and have a good chance of taking it out relatively painlessly.
So, really, take it only if you know they're not prepared. If they are, you're just wasting points. If you're planning for a tournament or just making a serious list, then I say don't do it.
Now, if it was a 750 game and you squeezed in 2 Land Raiders, that would be supercheese.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/27 08:42:54
Subject: Land Raider Crusader in 1000pt game?
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Hierarch
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It's cheesy, but it brings a volume of fire that could be called "ungodly" for a transport unit... There's always going to be a counter, and I'd probably suggest taking 2 if you're going to commit to it, just for the insurance and the panic factor. Just be sure you've got something to pop THEIR transports, as well.
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Things I've gotten other players to admit...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/27 14:51:51
Subject: Re:Land Raider Crusader in 1000pt game?
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Esteemed Veteran Space Marine
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I say that a single land raider per every 1,000 points is viable, though I get very upset everytime my brother uses one in 500 points... Or 3 in 1,000...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/27 15:05:53
Subject: Re:Land Raider Crusader in 1000pt game?
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Ladies Love the Vibro-Cannon Operator
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Inquisitor_Syphonious wrote:I say that a single land raider per every 1,000 points is viable, though I get very upset everytime my brother uses one in 500 points... Or 3 in 1,000...
Are you using the normal FOC?
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Lanchester's square law - please obey in list building!
Illumini: "And thank you for not finishing your post with a " " I'm sorry, but after 7200 's that has to be the most annoying sign-off ever."
Armies: Eldar, Necrons, Blood Angels, Grey Knights; World Eaters (30k); Bloodbound; Cryx, Circle, Cyriss |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/27 18:24:44
Subject: Re:Land Raider Crusader in 1000pt game?
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Swift Swooping Hawk
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Cool, thanks guys!
I do like your list Wustenfex, what were the Terminators armed with, just Storm Bolters/Powerfists? Are they split and riding in the LRC?
What I was planning on using was the AoBR models along with the Battle Force models, though I didnt actually buy the Battle Force, so Im short the 5 Scouts that go with it, but I have everything else.
Captain (which Id be happy to swap out for a Librarian)
Dreadnought w/ Multimelta
x5 Terminators
x10 Tactical w/ Missle Launcher, Flamer
x10 Tactical w/ Missle Launcher, Flamer
x5 Combat Squad w/ Bolters
x5 Assault
For Heavies I have x2 Predator Destructors, x1 Vindicator, x1 Land Raider Crusader, I can make a Devastator Squad with all Plasma Cannons.
I say Heavy Support because that's the only thing the army wouldnt have in it.
Thanks for the advice, what do you think of this business?
T-
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let the galaxy burn
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/27 20:17:14
Subject: Re:Land Raider Crusader in 1000pt game?
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Esteemed Veteran Space Marine
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Sorry, he plays CSM, the name is different but the principle is the same... chaos lords are only 90 points
As for the list, looks alright for a footslogger, though I would suggest upping the assault marine number or dropping 'em all together...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/28 00:06:07
Subject: Re:Land Raider Crusader in 1000pt game?
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Swift Swooping Hawk
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Im open to suggestions as far as my marine list goes. Id love to stick to at least what comes in the AoBR set plus a 2nd tactical squad for sure.
Again, Id happily swap the Captain out for a Librarian.
What else works for you guys?
Thanks!
T-
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let the galaxy burn
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starting up! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/28 17:05:50
Subject: Land Raider Crusader in 1000pt game?
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Devastating Dark Reaper
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Well, for 1000 points you can get
Librarian
5 TH/ SS terminators
Land Raider Crusader with Multi-melta and extra armor
2 tact squads - ML, flamer in rhinos
985 points
I just read an article on how to expand upon 2 AoBR boxt sets. Here was that 1850 list
140 Librarian in terminator armor
125 Dreadnought with dual t.l autocannons
125 Dreadnought with dual t.l autocannons
660 Terminators - 10; TH/ SS, LRC with MM
205 Tactical - 10; ML, flamer in rhino
205 Tactical - 10; ML, flamer in rhino
85 Predator - AC, 2 HB
85 Predator - AC, 2 HB
260 LRC with MM
1850
Looks like all you'll need is another dreadnought and 1 more LRC.
Original article
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/28 23:04:05
Subject: Re:Land Raider Crusader in 1000pt game?
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Swift Swooping Hawk
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And some Twin Linked Autocannon arms, haha.
Thanks for that.
T-
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let the galaxy burn
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/28 23:15:36
Subject: Land Raider Crusader in 1000pt game?
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Awesome Autarch
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Nothing at all wrong with it.
I played in a 1000 pt tournament a while back and my buddy brought two land raiders at 1,000 points. He did quite well until one opponent got two lucky shots with a vindicator and blew them both up. That is the risk of it. If you enemy has decent anti tank weapons, you are hosed.
1 I think it absolutely fine.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/31 22:07:04
Subject: Re:Land Raider Crusader in 1000pt game?
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Swift Swooping Hawk
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Thanks everyone for the replies. I have this LRC that I bought a few years ago, but havent even gotten a chance to use lol. Im finally getting a Space Marine chapter painted (after 12 years of trying to decide haha), and am excited to get it painted......after I get my AoBR and maybe what comes in the Battle Force painted.
By the way, a little off topic, would a 5 man scout squad be useful, and if so what weapon load out is not necessarily the best, because that's opinion/situation, but overall good?
Thanks!
T-
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let the galaxy burn
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