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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/27 08:39:21
Subject: Can a necron monolith be possessed by demons?
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Happy Citizen
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I've seen tanks possessed by demons, can a monolith too?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/27 08:59:04
Subject: Can a necron monolith be possessed by demons?
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Da Head Honcho Boss Grot
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I don't think it would be inherently impossible. I haven't heard of Living Metal rejecting warp powers in a way that regular metal can't.
However, I think it would be very strange. Most daemon possessed tanks are in the service of Chaos, with daemons bound to them. They don't just randomly go inside them like they might a psyker. Considering that it's nearly impossible to capture a monolith capturing one and then binding daemons to it would be very difficult indeed (and any usefulness the monolith might have once had will probably be gone with it becoming damaged enough for capture and seperated from the Necron forces).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/27 09:25:23
Subject: Re:Can a necron monolith be possessed by demons?
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Wrathful Warlord Titan Commander
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What orkeo said, plus any necron/C'Tan tech could include countermeasures to demonic influence.
Wouldnt be surprised if a captured monolith starts a self-destruction when those dark mech try to fit in a demon.
As the old ones used the warp against the C'Tan, why should the necronTech not have some resistance?
Remember the cadian pylons. If they work, the warp is closed. Whoever is able to construct such things,
will also have the knowledge to counter thw warp at a smaller scale.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/31 02:39:26
Subject: Can a necron monolith be possessed by demons?
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Whiteshield Conscript Trooper
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I think that because the Necrons are probably older than the Chaos gods themeselves and therefore would be "Incompatable" to demon influence.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/31 06:07:12
Subject: Can a necron monolith be possessed by demons?
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Da Head Honcho Boss Grot
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A Land Raider isn't any more inherently connected to Chaos than the Necrons are.
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Anuvver fing - when they do sumfing, they try to make it look like somfink else to confuse everybody. When one of them wants to lord it over the uvvers, 'e says "I'm very speshul so'z you gotta worship me", or "I know summink wot you lot don't know, so yer better lissen good". Da funny fing is, arf of 'em believe it and da over arf don't, so 'e 'as to hit 'em all anyway or run fer it. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/31 12:29:28
Subject: Re:Can a necron monolith be possessed by demons?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Of course they can!
Remember, firstly the necron tech relies on soul capturing, advanced AI and the transfers of consciousness, all of which are prone to daemonic influence.
Secondly, warp and psychic attacks were always used against the necrons as they dont have any defenses aganst that other then the later pariah tech.
Third, the necrons too fled and went hiding along with every otehr race during the scourging of life millions of years ago in the galaxy. This is said to be the cause of enslaver infestation from the warp although I forgot what fluff told this. The necrons were no more resilent from warp creatures tehn anything else.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/01/01 00:56:32
Subject: Can a necron monolith be possessed by demons?
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Sure Space Wolves Land Raider Pilot
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I seriously doubt it. Necron items are known have a null shield that repels psyker and warp energy.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/01/01 01:09:11
Subject: Can a necron monolith be possessed by demons?
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Brainy Zoanthrope
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They may have minor protection but nothing more.
I personally think it could.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/01/01 02:26:23
Subject: Re:Can a necron monolith be possessed by demons?
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Doc Brown
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No they couldn't. The necrons are an anti-chaos in every form, including the monolith.
In Dark Apostle (I know it's not canon but it proves my point) when the Word Bearers enter a monolith, or so it seems to have been similiar to one, their connection to the warp was utterly cut off.
The reason a vehicle can be possessed is because the machine-spirit occupying a vehicle can be joined with a daemon. A machine with no spirit is a blasphemy to the Omnissiah, so that is why all vehicles and technology can be possessed.
HOWEVER, a Monolith has no such spirit. It is a soulless chunk of rock and tech that is powered by the Necrons almighty ways. So in the end, I'd have to disagree that it can be possessed.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/01/01 03:23:50
Subject: Can a necron monolith be possessed by demons?
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Lord Commander in a Plush Chair
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I'm probably not up with the fluff, but how do you "capture" a monolith? Surely it just phases out.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/01/01 04:25:39
Subject: Can a necron monolith be possessed by demons?
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Horrific Howling Banshee
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Well, yeah. It does. Even the pieces of exploded ones do. So unless you find some way to stop phasing you cant really capture one.
Also monolith's are made of living metal and hence are alive to some degree. Considering how Necrons don't seem to register the warp at all like Tau I don't think chaos would ever really manage to possess one.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/01/01 08:13:13
Subject: Can a necron monolith be possessed by demons?
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Whiteshield Conscript Trooper
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Like I said before, it's like taking an ancient Computer and trying to upload some semi old software onto it. it just wont work because they aren't compatible. however, you may be able to upload it into newer model computers.
Software=demons
Ancient computer=Necrons
Newer models=everything else.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/01/01 11:38:18
Subject: Re:Can a necron monolith be possessed by demons?
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Boom! Leman Russ Commander
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No,that's not going to happen because necrons are the antithesis of the warp.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/01/01 14:37:01
Subject: Can a necron monolith be possessed by demons?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Necrons tech has no inherent immunity. It's can happen, just not likely because there's generally no reason for it to happen.
Also, the Daemon may not want to as they'll be bound to it for a long time. Someone had a theory that the Avatar of Khaine is actually a living metal shell inhabited by a Khainite essence, taking form to suit the possessor which the weapon may change.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/01/04 10:30:10
Subject: Can a necron monolith be possessed by demons?
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Horrific Howling Banshee
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Also Necrons came from the time before the chaos gods became sentient. So as Cassandra said they are completely incompatible and are unable to be possessed.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/01/04 11:07:54
Subject: Can a necron monolith be possessed by demons?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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idget wrote:Also Necrons came from the time before the chaos gods became sentient. So as Cassandra said they are completely incompatible and are unable to be possessed.
That doesn't have any basis in any established 40k fluff and doesn't make sense anyway.
Many Eldar were around before Slaanesh is sentient, if the statement about Necrons was true, Slaanesh couldn't consume Eldar.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/01/04 21:34:43
Subject: Re:Can a necron monolith be possessed by demons?
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Da Head Honcho Boss Grot
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Lorgar's_Blessed wrote:The reason a vehicle can be possessed is because the machine-spirit occupying a vehicle can be joined with a daemon. A machine with no spirit is a blasphemy to the Omnissiah, so that is why all vehicles and technology can be possessed.
HOWEVER, a Monolith has no such spirit.
Daemons also possess swords and other "spiritless" objects.
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Anuvver fing - when they do sumfing, they try to make it look like somfink else to confuse everybody. When one of them wants to lord it over the uvvers, 'e says "I'm very speshul so'z you gotta worship me", or "I know summink wot you lot don't know, so yer better lissen good". Da funny fing is, arf of 'em believe it and da over arf don't, so 'e 'as to hit 'em all anyway or run fer it. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/01/04 21:57:26
Subject: Re:Can a necron monolith be possessed by demons?
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Pyro Pilot of a Triach Stalker
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Orkeosaurus wrote:Lorgar's_Blessed wrote:The reason a vehicle can be possessed is because the machine-spirit occupying a vehicle can be joined with a daemon. A machine with no spirit is a blasphemy to the Omnissiah, so that is why all vehicles and technology can be possessed.
HOWEVER, a Monolith has no such spirit.
Daemons also possess swords and other "spiritless" objects.
There is difference between being spiritless and being totally Warp resistent which Necron artifacts for the most part are. HOWEVER, don't forget that C'Tan can be turned into warp spawn, but he FAQ did also specifiy that the Warp Spawn would revert back to a C'tan and kill the Chaos Sorceror after the battle.
So, IMO yes I think it could be possible but on an extremely limited basis and probably not to the extent that Daemon binding would require to be able to posses the Monolith.
On a note about Necron tech Phasing out even when it explodes, there is definitely some contradicting points to that fact considering that Orks, and Chaos have both demonstrated that some Necron parts do not phase out when destroyed. The Ork Kommando character wears a Tomb Spyder face plate as goggles, and there are several model pieces that contain Necron heads and other bitz in the Ork and Chaos ranges.
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