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daemon prince mark of nurgle, wings, warptime. 175pts

7 plague marines 2 flamers, champion with fist and combi plasma. 221pts

rhino 35pts

7 plague marines 1 melta gun, 1 flamer, champion with fist and combi plasma. 226pts

rhino. 35pts

7 plague marines 1 melta gun, 1 flamer, champion with fist 216pts

rhino 35pts

5 plague marines 2 plasmaguns. 145pts

rhino 35pts

defiler reaper auto cannon, extra cc/w. 150pts

defiler reaper auto cannon, extra cc/w. 150pts

1 obliterator. 75pts

total: 1498pts

comments an critcisms other than its unfluffy death guard in rhinos wtf i know. the oblit is jsut there to deep strike coudl swap it for something not sure what tho :S

Looks good I think. I wouldn't mix the Combi-Plasma with non-rapid fire weapons.

I feel like the single Obliterators is too much of an easy kill point. I'd drop it and take 3 more PM to spread throughout your army.

minigun762 wrote:Looks good I think. I wouldn't mix the Combi-Plasma with non-rapid fire weapons.

I feel like the single Obliterators is too much of an easy kill point. I'd drop it and take 3 more PM to spread throughout your army.

Agreed. Would bring that other squad up to 7 men. You could then use the remainder of the points to improve your wargear. I would try and fit as many meltaguns as you could. They are superior to plasmaguns imo. If you can't make the points flamers are good too. Rapid fire weapons are just not what you want as in general the PMs are much more survivable in HTH. Good start though I am looking at something similiar.

I prefer Vindicators to Defilers. Give them a havoc launcher just in case their main weapon is knocked out and daemonic possession so they ignore shaken/stunned damage. Ka-booom!!!

I do not suggest mixing weapons.
A single oblit is really meh, kill point bait.
2 makes them a more viable threat IMO.
While combi-plasma is a risk on expensive FIst champions...and when the rest of the squad have assault weapons you give the champ a rapid fire weapon? <---That is the 'wtf' moment as oppposed to Plagues in rhinos.

Well, I suggest taking 3 PM units in Rhinos, but not mixing special weapons.
I'd replace the 4th unit by Obliterators.

I agree with everything said here so far:

Don't mix weapons in squads - I think 2 melta gun squads, 1 plasmagun and 1 flamer squad would be fine. If you use combi-weapons, which are a truly optional upgrade, avoid plasma because your champ has a PF, and you don't want to lose that super-important model to an overheat. Don't mix rapid-fire upgrades w/assault weapons.

I would agree with the above opinions, scrap the oblit and bulk out the last PM squad (I would take 1 extra body, and upgrade to a champ w/PF)

Aside from that, very tough list. The last game I played I lost decisively to this sort of army.

hey again the only reason have mixed weapons is i just tend to have them modelled up is all and i dotn like proxying much :S strange i know. the over load is a problem but i jus find if i faila 3 up an FNP i deserve to be killed lol . i think ill take the advice bout bulking up tho make em all bigger have nice bit of counter fluff as well all 7's in rhinos the single oblit was jusa last conmfused choice thanks for advice tho defo dropping that. i might model up sum more metla guns atm tho have 4 flamers, 2 meltas and 2 plasma guns.

the reason i dont always liek to charge is shooting yeilds betetr reulsts than combat for plague attacks get no charge bonus better of shooting thyna charge in most cases, an with the amount of power fists around pm's go down fast an each oen dead is expensive.

i was thinkign of chuckin in some lesser daemosn mayeb just as a lil bit of support but not sure :/

hmm is always a hard toss up between defilers or vindies. the vinide has stronger gun but the range rly helps in this list i need sumthin back that can damge light tanks or infantryif i play horde orks need to kill as many as possible. also the defielrs can charge if needs be and mash up a tank with 5 str ten attacks they can doa fair bit.

ccheers for advice guys!

Why do you post a list, when you don't take our advice for serious.

I wouldn't take a Champ. The advantage to them is that they get extra CC upgrades. You shouldn't be getting tehm into CC. Not that they suck in CC, but they are better shooting and holding objectives. IMO, taking champs is a waste of points.

Drop the Oblit, 1 Oblit is not a good idea as it is an easy Kill Point.

You don't really have to take Daemons.

Don't mix weapons, make one purely dedicated to one task.

Beef up that last 5-man squad to maybe 7 wih the Oblit gone.

@the emperors champion:

Charging is better than being charged.
Your offense if higher, and you deny the opponent his shooting phase to soften the plague marines up before they charge in (blight grenades included).

In addition, 'a great defense is also a great offense' you don't need to wreck house in combat. 2 Round assaults are a superior goal and PM's are as killy as assault marines on the charge and tougher, able to get better results when the combat resolution is involved.