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Hopefully a simple question...

Lets say you have +2 to reserve rolls at the beginning of turn 3 (lets say you are playing eldar with two autarchs). The base roll is 3+. If you add +2 to your reserve roll it then becomes a 1+. Now do you still roll and on a 1 they still fail to come in, or do they automatically come in (on a roll of 1 or greater, which you cannot fail)?

A 1 always fails, (EDIT after the page number I have found) in this case.
Turn 5 is automatic.

So:
2 Autarchs can:
Turn 2: 2+
Turn 3: 2+
Turn 4: 2+
Turn 5: Auto.

1 Autarch can:
Turn 2: 3+
Turn 3: 2+
Turn 4: 2+
Turn 5: Auto.

Or when ever they feel like applying the bonus.

There is no rule that says that a roll of 1 is a failed Reserves roll. So if a bonus lets you bring on Reserves on a 1+, a roll of a 1 will be a success. So no need to roll... just bring them on.

er ... 1 isn't always a fail unless the rules say so ... Shooting is but i think thats it.

And armour saves, although that is a consequence of 2+ being the best possible save.

I would play it as a 1+ is... roll a 1 or higher.

I usually use Farseers anyway so it hasn't come up for me yet though.


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nosferatu1001 wrote:And armour saves, although that is a consequence of 2+ being the best possible save.

interesting thought... Eldar pathfinders get +2 to cover... fortified position are 3+ cover saves... but if you can pass on a 1+ with sufficient modifiers then thats just sick and wrong (just hope theres no flamers around)

Excellent, thanks for the answers everyone. Seems that I have my answer.

Yup, a roll of one is only a autofail for Wounds, Ranged To Hit and Saves (off the top of my head).

(off the top of my head)

That should have been my line. ;D

But coming from you, is Dooms day approaching?

dayve110 wrote:interesting thought... Eldar pathfinders get +2 to cover... fortified position are 3+ cover saves... but if you can pass on a 1+ with sufficient modifiers then thats just sick and wrong (just hope theres no flamers around)

Page 24 of the rulebook, 'Maximum Save'
No save can ever be better than 2+.

Sanctjud wrote:

(off the top of my head)

That should have been my line. ;D

But coming from you, is Dooms day approaching?

Nah, It's just a disclaimer to make sure if I do forget something, I can blame the Gin.

Hmmmmmmmmm.... Gin!

Oh, I just remembered, for Characteristic Tests (Toughness test, Initiative Test etc.) a Roll of 1 always passes and a Roll of 6 always fails

Hmmmmmm.....

I think I'm right though.
Page 29 of the Eldar codex:
"(a roll of 1 always counts as a failure)."

Yay for having access to a codex.

You know, I think I actually missed that bit the last time this came up as well.

How embarrassment.

Well to be fair, he did not say it was specifically the Autarch. Yeah, for an autarch, a roll of one is a failure, for something like an IG Astropath, a roll of one is NOT a failure.

Dont feel bad insaniac, I messed up on the ATSKNF rules earlier today. I hate SM and havnt read their codex in forever. But cmon! They are more popular then Jesus! I should of got that one right!

KingCracker wrote:But cmon! They are more popular then Jesus!

John Lennon would like to have a word with you.

Since it's fun to nitpick, a roll of 1 to hit isn't always a failure if you have BS6 isn't it?

Nivoglibina wrote:Since it's fun to nitpick, a roll of 1 to hit isn't always a failure if you have BS6 isn't it?

You sir are correct, on a 6+ BS.

On the note of Autarch, please smack the writer for putting that blurb in there for me.

Nivoglibina wrote:Since it's fun to nitpick, a roll of 1 to hit isn't always a failure if you have BS6 isn't it?

er its is a fail but you get a reroll at BS1

Ah, true!

And even with BS10, rolling 1 on the second roll is a fail