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Trouble with Eldar. The person I play aginst a lot at the game store fields Eldar. He knows his army well, good use of Psychics. HELP!
I have played several armies aginst his eldar. SoB,WH Inq,BT,SW. I am playing SW now.

Problems: He has lots of small elite units (5 -6 eldar). Stuff in reserve/infiltrate, S Scorpions comming on the table at my weak flank (heavy weapons). Powerful save/armor on special weapon vehicles. The wave serpent is a pain. Having to roll 2 damage rolls and using the lowerest.

The Eldar get alot of shots and are pretty acurate.
They have a HIGH Initive of 5 and a lot of attacks.
( I hate the initive order in assault combat.) My blood Claws fight in the Assault after have to take a beating from the eldar ,Then the survivors get to fight.
Last week I had a:LRC, LR (gh). I took out his prism cannon 1st turn. Next week he will hav a army list with more Armor Pen. He also has a Swooping Hawk unit, that drops pie plate templates on the unit of 15 BC.
i will have Tempest's Wraith, make all of his grav tanks to be on Dangerous ground. (JothWW will not work because of the high Int.)
thank you for reading this and posting a reply.- Resinmann, David

The wave serpent is a pain. Having to roll 2 damage rolls and using the lowerest.

You mean Falcon with holofield, a Serpent has an energy field and cannot get a holofield.
So for a Serpent, you roll 1D6 for damage.

Easiest fix versus Eldar is Long Fangs with missile launchers and 2x Rune Priests.

Missile Fangs will absolutely crush any Eldar units due to T6 or lower and a max AV of 12. Frag missiles are vicious against Eldar troops.

2x Runic Staves mean that you get 2 rolls to negate any psychic powers within 24". Don't count on them getting off many psychic powers since Runes of Warding forces you to roll 3d6 versus Ld10, but denying him psychic powers will have far more impact.

Make sure all your units are in some sort of transport, and play the Blood Claws as Grey Hunters; they're just better for the points value.

A couple of ideas:

1. 2 X Runic staves does not get you 2 times to stop a psychic power. You only get one chance regardless of how many psychic hoods you have.

Now on to stopping eldar. As I play both eldar and wolves here is what would scare me as an eldar player:

1. Thunderwolf cav - Little to now urades, throw a lord in there and this unit can do some massive damage, has decent range and is very tough.
2. The other guy is right you should not even go to battle without two squads of long fangs. I have seen the 5 missle luanchers in each work fine but I would actually prefer 3 missle luanchers and 2 lascannons in each.
3. Target priority is key - against holo falcoms use your strength greater than 8 stuff while it is a waste on the wave serpants.
4. With eldar mobility he will be looking to alpha strike one of your units or at most 2 a turn. Do not get overly aggressive with you army. Use the long fang firesupport group as a base. With 10 str 8 or greater shots you can trade shots with the entire eldar army. Remeber once you glance a holo prism you can stop shooting at it. Same generaly goes with holo falcons as 6 eldar coming out of one tank is not got to seriously hurt you. Make sure you do not oversextend your lines. Always leave your units withi support range of one another so that if he decimates one unit you can counter atack.

There are a couple of units that tend to be dealt with a certian way:

Banshees - shoot them with bolters or thunderwolf or biker cav is very effective, Watch out for doom as that is what makes these guys really effective.

Fire dragons - If you have mech or big terminator units these guys need to be a priority. Anything you can do is fine.

Holo prisms and falcons - shoot until you shake or stun them and then move on to other targets. If you can eliminate the firepower of these units without wasting your entire firepower you are accomplishing the mission.

Wave serpants - Find out which ones carry the dangerous stuff and go for those first. Get his farseer walking if you can as that reduces the effectiveness of his psychic powers.

seer council - bolters work wonders.

war walkers and vypers- Missle luanchers should leave these bleeding badly.

yoyo hawks - just spread your models out better.

Hope this helps

Eldar has some trouble with a fully footslogging SM horde army.
Use lascannons to stun the Falcons and Fire Prisms and
missile launchers against Serpents.
Keep the army together and the enemy will have a hard time.

Yeah i have the same problem. Thats why i don't play agianst eldar. THere is one guy in my store that always beat me. So next time if face him i'm going to use my eldar! which is exactly the same XD.

BrPrometheus wrote:A couple of ideas:

1. 2 X Runic staves does not get you 2 times to stop a psychic power. You only get one chance regardless of how many psychic hoods you have.

Wrong.

@resinmann: I would smoke less weed, then you might be a better player.

"resinmann: I would smoke less weed, then you might be a better player. " *Polyurathane resin. I use to cast resin models for Armorcast.

Weed can be useful when shopping for GW products. You won't remember how much you spent. lol

Hehe, I made an ass out of somebody...

Thanks guys. Eldar will adapt.