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Hi, i just registered and i thought i try out this section for some friendly advice ... I used to be a an ork player and a lill while back some friends of mine convinced me to start playing again. So ofc i had to pick up the AoBR. Only to find that i no longer had the stomach/time to paint all that green ... so i did the only sensible thing and bocked a flight to rome to first hand check out the old stones from the time of the smurfs erhmm i mean the .... anyways ...

I got AoBR, battleforce, landraider, landspeeder and a pack of the really nice Space Hulk all standing on my paint table. My next planed buy now would be one Space Marine Strike Force to beef up the armored section, that is unless you can come up with some sound advice to change my mind. We started having smaller battles and the plan is to grow the army as i paint so i made up a couple of army list's i would like to try keep them competetiv. Although i am trying to go in the opposite direction from my somewhat infantry heavy ork army. So i have opted to take as much armour as possible and tried to stear away from the infantry and then ofc there is some limitations as to what i had time to paint and well own ...
<table>
<tr><td/><td>Starting army 400p patrol battle rules.</td></tr>
<tr><td>Troops</td><td>5x Tactical squad</td><td>90</td></tr>
<tr><td>Transport</td><td>Rhino with storm bolter</td><td>45</td></tr>
<tr><td>Troops</td><td>5x Scout with combat blades and Missile Launcher</td><td>85</td></tr>
<tr><td>Fast Attack</td><td>5x Assult Squad with flamer</td><td>110</td></tr>
<tr><td>Fast Attack</td><td>LandSpeeder with MultiMelta</td><td>70</td></tr>
<tr><td/><td>Total</td><td>400P </td></tr>
<tr/>
<tr><td/><td>Standard rules compliant army 1000p.</td></tr>
<tr><td>HQ</td><td>Captain, StormBolter, Artificer Armour, power fist, Jump pack</td><td>168</td></tr>
<tr><td>Troops</td><td>10x Tactical squad, Missile Launcher & Flammer</td><td>170</td></tr>
<tr><td>Transport</td><td>Rhino</td><td>35</td></tr>
<tr><td>Troops</td><td>10x Tactical squad, Missile Launcher & Flammer</td><td>170</td></tr>
<tr><td>Transport</td><td>Rhino</td><td>35</td></tr>
<tr><td>Elites</td><td>DreadNought</td><td>105</td></tr>
<tr><td>Transport</td><td>Drop pod</td><td>25</td></tr>
<tr><td>Fast Attack</td><td>5x Assult Squad with Plasma pistol (2st)</td><td>130</td></tr>
<tr><td>Fast Attack</td><td>LandSpeeder with MultiMelta</td><td>70</td></tr>
<tr><td>H Support</td><td>Whirwelwind</td><td>85</td></tr>
<tr><td/><td>Total</td><td>1000P </td></tr>
<tr/>
<tr><td/><td>Standard rules compliant army 1500p.</td></tr>
<tr><td>HQ</td><td>Libraria, Terminatour armour and storm bolter</td><td>130</td></tr>
<tr><td>Troops</td><td>10x Tactical squad, Missile Launcher & Flammer</td><td>170</td></tr>
<tr><td>Transport</td><td>Rhino</td><td>35</td></tr>
<tr><td>Troops</td><td>10x Tactical squad, Missile Launcher & Flammer</td><td>170</td></tr>
<tr><td>Transport</td><td>Rhino</td><td>35</td></tr>
<tr><td>Elites</td><td>DreadNought</td><td>105</td></tr>
<tr><td>Elites</td><td>5x Terminator Assult Squad with shield & hammer</td><td>200</td></tr>
<tr><td>Transport</td><td>Land Raider</td><td>250</td></tr>
<tr><td>H Support</td><td>Vindicator</td><td>115</td></tr>
<tr><td>H Support</td><td>Whirwelwind</td><td>85</td></tr>
<tr><td/><td>Total</td><td>1500P </td></tr>
<tr/>
<tr><td/><td>Final army grown to 2000p standard rules compliant.</td></tr>
<tr><td>HQ</td><td>Libraria, Terminatour armour and storm bolter</td><td>130</td></tr>
<tr><td>Troops</td><td>10x Tactical squad, Missile Launcher & Flammer</td><td>170</td></tr>
<tr><td>Transport</td><td>Rhino</td><td>35</td></tr>
<tr><td>Troops</td><td>10x Tactical squad, Missile Launcher & Flammer</td><td>170</td></tr>
<tr><td>Transport</td><td>Rhino</td><td>35</td></tr>
<tr><td>Troops</td><td>10x Tactical squad, Missile Launcher & Flammer</td><td>170</td></tr>
<tr><td>Transport</td><td>Rhino</td><td>35</td></tr>
<tr><td>Elites</td><td>5x Terminator Squad with Assult Cannon</td><td>200</td></tr>
<tr><td>Transport</td><td>Land Raider</td><td>250</td></tr>
<tr><td>Elites</td><td>DreadNought</td><td>105</td></tr>
<tr><td>Elites</td><td>5x Terminator Assult Squad with shield & hammer</td><td>200</td></tr>
<tr><td>H Support</td><td>Land Raider</td><td>250</td></tr>
<tr><td>H Support</td><td>Vindicator</td><td>115</td></tr>
<tr><td>H Support</td><td>Whirwelwind</td><td>85</td></tr>
<tr><td/><td>Total</td><td>2000P or actually 1980 atm ... </td></tr>
</table>

I'm so confused.

Format this correctly.

Not sure how you would like me to format it then ? Apart from the enormous space i don't know how to get rid of ... i guess i could insert some text in between the different army lists, would that help ?

You could retype the list out something like this
HQ
<insert unit>
-<insert upgrades and details>
<point cost>

Troops
<insert unit>
and you get the idea...at least that's what I see most people doing.

I like the formatting, but the general method is as stated above.

Combat Patrol:
1: Give your scouts snipes if you're going to have a missile launcher. They're useless anyway in close combat, and a missile launcher means they are not very flexible.

2: Give your rhino a dozer blade, no stormbolter. Your rhino is a transport, so maximise that aspect and not the fighting aspect.

3: I would loose the assault squad and get something more worth it. Another 5 man tac squad and give the landspeeder typhoon missiles.

1000 point list:
1: A drop pod is 50 points

2: A whirlwind will easily get blown if you leave it all alone behind. All your units are fast apart from the whirlwind. Stick to the theme and get a second landspeeder.

3: Good list

1500 point list:
1: You need a land raider crusader or redemmer to fit your librarian in with your terminators. Which one is it?

2: Your list is now more static due to the heavy support and no assault squad. The whirlwind and vindicator are good additions now.

2000 point list:
1: A land raider is a heavy support choice, not a trassport. You already have 3 HS choices. You have to loose one... the whirlind.

2:Get a drop pod from the points left by the whirlwind. Use the remaining points to give your tac squads extra power. Sergeant upgrades or some other special and heavy weapons.

Well, I hope this will help you out.

a drop pod is 35 not 50 and one LR can be a dedicated transport for termies.

As for the advice. In your 2k list get two assult termie units instead of just on stantard tactical and one assult.
Drop the Whirlwind for another vindicator. Just remove the termi armour on the libby and keep him inside the LR. Dont really know what a footslogging MM dread is doing in the lists.

Right, sorry about the drop pod. 50 for Dark Angels...

tedurur wrote:a drop pod is 35 not 50 and one LR can be a dedicated transport for termies.

Actually, you can take 3 as DT for Termies....on top of 3 more for HS. You have no idea how horrifying 6 LRs, of any type, is against you in a game....

JEB_Stuart wrote:Actually, you can take 3 as DT for Termies....on top of 3 more for HS. You have no idea how horrifying 6 LRs, of any type, is against you in a game....

Lies all Lies. Only one squad of Assault Terminators and/or one squad of Regular Terminators can take a Land Raider as a Dedicated Transport