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GutzMek
Warboss on bike
w/ Bike, Pk, BP, Cybork, Attack Squig And Kombi Skorcha
= 340

Troops

6x Warbikers w/ Nob, PK and Bp= 190
6x Warbikers w/ Nob, Pk and Bp= 190
6x Nobz w/ bikes
w/ 4x Pk, 4xBp, 4x kombi skorcha, 1x painboy, 4x cybork and 2x Ughh Choppas
=485 (could someone double check this for me, plse?)


Fast

5x Deff Koptas w/ Pk, 1x Big Bomm=265
5x Deff Koptas w/ Pk, 1x Big Bomm=265
5x Deff Koptas w/ Pk, 1x Big Bomm=265


Thats 20x Bikes and 15x Jetbikes

I played this list already with a different upgrade set-up. Though, 15x TL rockets a turn while a bunch of bikes zooming at you is scary. My first fight was with a Tau player he conceded by his turn two, no joke. What i need help with is maybe getting rid of one unit of koptas and maybe getting more warbikers or buffing up my nob bikers? Any help or suggestion guys?

cyborks upgrade is for the whole unit. If you want to take it, you must have 7, instead of 4.

...and,how would you deal with AV14?

tokugawa wrote:
...and,how would you deal with AV14?

Nob bikers with 4 PKs!

tokugawa wrote:cyborks upgrade is for the whole unit. If you want to take it, you must have 7, instead of 4.

...and,how would you deal with AV14?

Umm.. I can have Cybork upgrades on specific models. They don't have to be all the same. I have enough Pk's floating around for that. My koptas usually can destroy or immobilize most vehicles. The land raider is usually low priority.

I would highly recommend dropping a unit of koptas for more warbikers. Also for your nobs your upgrades are a little wonky. As aforementioned, all or none have to have cybork. Why you have 4 bosspoles eludes me completely, one is sufficient. I would also encourage you to leave some nobs without big choppas as on the charge against T3 it actually results in fewer wounds inflicted and even against T4 the big choppa is only equally as effective as slugga/ccw (1.67 wounds from big choppa vs. 1.65 from slugga/ccw nob.) .02 extra wounds isn't worth 5 points. Big choppas are for attacking rear armor and MCs and both of these things are done better by PKs which you have plenty of. Also I got a total of 515 for your nobs, though it should be 540 with cybork on everyone.

You must have cybork on all or none. The wording it that "the squad may have cybork bodies for +5 points per model" that means all or none as it says squad.
You need to drop some koptas and get your squads, nob and regular, up to max strength. Orks win by numbers, even in expensive units. Getting regular warbikers to 12 and attaching an HQ to each would mean they need to cause 4 casualties before you need to take a leadership check, and even then mob rule will still be on your side, unlike with only 6 biker squads.

I can run 60 Warbikers in my 2k Ork list I made up, along with 3 koptas in their own units, and Wazdakka and 3 Nob Biker Retinue (w/ PK's), the Warbiker Mobs of 12 have a PK and bosspole.

Thats how you should run your list.

Tank shocking mech lists may be a problem for you. That is what I do when I see Ork bikes and jet bikes, just tank shock them a few times and they start running off the board.

And yeah, all Nob's have to have cybork bodies if any of them do.

Cool list though, post more pics of the army, looks like you have some interesting conversions in there.