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AUTOCANNONS!!! SM killers. These will deal with any SM and light tanks. and if you dont want to thrash them to much bring them in latter in the game. If you dont want to place one of these in every squad a LR exterminater will do the trick its autocannon is heavy 4 and twinlinked. Though it sounds like you have a tight bugit so maybe just plain autocannons will do.

Bane wolf. The cem cannon on this is template and wounds on a +2 with ap 3 this eats through power armor like butter. It can also be pushed forwad right in there face. And the great thing about any hellhound varent is that from 4th edition no one is scared of them so when they meet them they never expect them to carve a path right down the middle of there attack. This works even better if they are consentrating their first attack on thoese oh so scary penal leagion troops. I support my penals with a sentanal or to as they all have scouting ability. and while they are drawing fire move in with my hellhound (Bane wolf works better for SM).

Iv never used rough riders so i dont no how they will stand up aginst SM fast attack. But i realy want to give them a try. Been trying to get my hands on some for a while now. id like to know if you have found them effective

Captain Roderick wrote:I never thought of autocannons as especially useful against SM - good for the rhinos, indeed, but I just figured against 3+ saves they perhaps didn't have the rate of fire to cause much damage?

Im glad you are willing to try them out. They are the only weapon a IG squad can carry with any kind of rate of fire and that will wound a SM on 2+. They will also devistat any pesky scouts from holding down flanks. And 3 of these in a heavy weapons squad with the bring it down comand count as 3 twin linked autocannons. There goes that rhino with all them lovely men inside.

I would always incued a platoon in any IG army against any opponent. Its another officer with a squad of plasm/melta/flamer/GLs and 20 men to give orders to. I resently played where i combined a whole platoon of 30 men into one squad and FRFSRF looks very scary at that point backed up by somthing heavyer this platoon can hold a cover position easly against twice its points in SMs. But then if your style is a bit more complex then cover and fire mobility in valkyries and chimeras is probibly IGs second stratagy.

Iv always thought that the one hit wonder of the rough riders was their downfall. I dotn like the idea of having a whole squad out by the second round of real fighting. But if they can take out their points worth before that then maybe their worth it. Iv only recently started to get things in my army with a bit more mobility so they are defenetly on my list of things to include.

I do have one thing to say not to include that is storm troopers. i tryed out their new rules and boy did they suck. Their special rules are good. but the hot-shot lasgun just dose not cut the mustard. I tryed them out against SMs and S3 just is not good enough to realy make adiffrence without about 29 more to back them up. the AP3 sounds good but if you dont wound there is no point. But if your playing lost of friendlies then i would at least try them out for their special rules more then there wepons.

Snow is so cool! working an army on a budget sucks but it is also part of the chalange and that is the excitment. then again im shoving my wories out the window and going to play in the snow too.

I was wondering how those WWI cav look up against Citadel minitures? After some resurce I now want to include Rough riders in my choises of units to bring as i was thinking of starting a fast attack based army, just for fun mainly.

air cav, hellhound varents and Rough riders

at the moment GW Rough riders would set me back too much and Id like to eat and play wargames this week not just play wargames. lol