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Vulcan List for an up coming Tournament:
NEW LIST:

Vulkan- 190
Libby- Terminator armor, SS, null zone, avenger- 140

10 Hammernators- TH/SS (combat squad)
LRC- multi melta- 260

10 tact marines- melta, multi melta, sergeant, Pfist-200
Rhino- 35
10 tact marines- melta, multi melta, sergeant, Pfist-200
Rhino- 35

2 Land speeders- Multi meltas, Heavy flamers- 140
Land speeder- Multi melta, Heavy flamer- 70
Land speeder- Multi melta, Heavy flamer- 70

LRC- multi melta- 260


2000 points dead on.

I up graded the Libby with a SS, changed the land raiders to crusaiders from redeemers and swapped the bikes for land speeders.

thoughts?

man have to say I like it.Other than pulling out some attack bikes for Land speeders, can say there's not much I don't like about this list

oh and I would take that 15 points and get a storm shield for your libby well that's assuming it's a 2000 point tourney

oooh good idea

Well, looks really good.
But you stick all eggs into 2 baskets (LRR's).
I figured that some armies at this level could ruin your day
by popping the LRR's early in the game.
Good luck!

Nice list, speeders are better mainly because they don't take terrain tests and can have two weapons A multi melta and heavy flamer is best.

wuestenfux wrote:Well, looks really good.
But you stick all eggs into 2 baskets (LRR's).
I figured that some armies at this level could ruin your day
by popping the LRR's early in the game.
Good luck!

what suggestions do you recomend to avoid this "ruined day"

i have considered dropping the hammer squad in size and running one LR.

also im working on a list that includes speeders instead of bikes, thanks

TBH I run two land raiders and they work ok. For armies to ruin the day they need to put a lot of strong fire power towards those land raiders, which means not firing at other things.

NEW LIST:

Vulkan- 190
Libby- Terminator armor, SS, null zone, avenger- 140

10 Hammernators- TH/SS (combat squad)
LRC- multi melta- 260

10 tact marines- melta, multi melta, sergeant, Pfist-200
Rhino- 35
10 tact marines- melta, multi melta, sergeant, Pfist-200
Rhino- 35

2 Land speeders- Multi meltas, Heavy flamers- 140
Land speeder- Multi melta, Heavy flamer- 70
Land speeder- Multi melta, Heavy flamer- 70

LRC- multi melta- 260


2000 points dead on.

I up graded the Libby with a SS, changed the land raiders to crusaiders from redeemers and swapped the bikes for land speeders.

thoughts?

It looks pretty badass.
Though I do prefer 3 troop squads minimum.
I'm sort of meh at so many land speeders.

Maybe exchange the 2 Land Speeder squad for MM Attack Bikes.
They can actually hide behind the rhinos and LRs if they need to.

As to AssTermies, I would still suggest 1-2 lightning claws even with MC'ed TH, they offer some flexibility, which is always a good thing, esp. in 2 basket lists.

All gravy. Personaly I prefer redeemers over crusaders, that S6 AP3 is nasty and to use the crusaders full power you need to be within 12" anyway. Though thats just matter of opinion. List looks ok though

thanks for feed back ill play test both LRs and see which style suites me better, i think the redeemer would fir in better fluff wise, id have to see what i could with the extra 20 points though.

With the extra 20 points you could get extra for both the LRs if you can wind another 10 somewhere.

I'm with Sanctjud 20 marines is really not alot of troops choices for 2000 points it would be pretty easy for you are opponent to nail those and you can't then win 2 out of 3 games.

However don't bother with the LCs they add nothing to TH/SS terminators in Vanilla marines let alone Vulkan Cheese'Tan ones!

You should have easily enough anti-horde with all those flamers anyway.

zachwho wrote:thanks for feed back ill play test both LRs and see which style suites me better, i think the redeemer would fir in better fluff wise, id have to see what i could with the extra 20 points though.

I played with a redeemer recently and was more impressed with it than a crusader.

my main concern is the redeemers range. but i do like the idea of mega flamers lol.

also, is the two troops things going to get me beat alot?, i dont plan on hurling them out there to get an eary pile driver, but would i be able to keep them protected long enough at 2k?

Libby- Terminator armor, SS, null zone, avenger- 140

I run my Libby in the same way.

Well, as said, you still all eggs into two baskets.
I'd try to obscure one LR (the closest to the enemy) during the advance of the army in turn 1.

I think Vortex of Doom may serve you better than Avenger. Also, most lists I've seen like this take flamers instead of meltaguns on the Tactical squads.

why would you take flamers over melta guns?

zachwho wrote:my main concern is the redeemers range. but i do like the idea of mega flamers lol.

also, is the two troops things going to get me beat alot?, i dont plan on hurling them out there to get an eary pile driver, but would i be able to keep them protected long enough at 2k?

Well you need to get within 12" to bring the crusader to maximum fire power, right? What difference is 3" to burn with dual flamer templates which have a much better profile and allow no cover saves?

Well, yeah, in objective games. Destroy your troops and you can only contest, can you contest every other objective? I don't think so.