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revised listed posted.


So, i have decided im going to probably make a vulkan list, heres my first shot, c&c please.

fun facts 4 melta guns, 4 multi meltas, 10 kombi meltas 3 heavy flamers 3 kombi flamers

hq
vulkan 190

elite
ironclad /w hvy flamer, ironclad assault launchers in drop pod 195
10x sternguard vets.10x kombi meltas . in drop pod. 335
6x assault termys, all /w th/ss riding in a Land raider redeemer 480

troop
10x tacticals, meltagun, multimelta in rhino. sgt with kombi flamer 220
10x tacticals, meltagun, multimelta in rhino. sgt with kombi flamer 220
10x tacticals, meltagun, multimelta in rhino. sgt with kombi flamer 220

fast attack
1x land speeder /w multimelta & heavy flamer 70
1x land speeder /w multimelta & heavy flamer 70

with the sternguard, i was planning on dropping them into some forward cover or something like that ...

...why are you worried about flamers getting twin-linked? Templates don't roll to hit.

But they do re-roll to WOUND...

As far as the list goes, it might be a good thing, but it seems to me to be a bit pointless to give your tac sarges kombi weps. You drop an attack, all for hte chance that ONCE you MIGHT kill something...

The Sternguard I think should all have kombi weapons, so you can take advantage of their special ammunition, or no kombi weapons at all, give you more room for other shiz.

NO. The fire cannon on LRR would not affected by Vulkan.

Yea i didnt think it would, seeing as its not a flamer or heavy flamer etc, other people have been saying to swap the meltaguns out for kombis too, their special ammo is great, but so are rapid fire melta weapons no? =/

as for the kombi flamers on sarges, the squad isnt meant to assault much really, its more for if im sittin there and get knocked out of my transport by some orks via assault, lots of ork players where i play... and a flamer in the face as a reward for popping a rhino is always pretty cool ...

mon-keigh slayer wrote:Yea i didnt think it would, seeing as its not a flamer or heavy flamer etc, other people have been saying to swap the meltaguns out for kombis too, their special ammo is great, but so are rapid fire melta weapons no? =/

...you dont get to rapid fire the combi-melta...
(which is, in fact, spelled with a c btw...)
it shoots exactly like a melta for one turn...

ironclad /w hvy flamer & drop pod 180
10x sternguard vets. 2x meltagun, 5x kombi melta, 2x kombi flamer, sgt with kombi melta. in drop pod. 335

Well, you need 3 pods such that Ironclad and Sternguard arrive at turn 1.
The configuration of the Sternguard is a bit odd.
I'd take either 10 combi-meltas or 5 combi-meltas and 5 combi-flamers.

krusty wrote:

mon-keigh slayer wrote:Yea i didnt think it would, seeing as its not a flamer or heavy flamer etc, other people have been saying to swap the meltaguns out for kombis too, their special ammo is great, but so are rapid fire melta weapons no? =/

...you dont get to rapid fire the combi-melta...
(which is, in fact, spelled with a c btw...)
it shoots exactly like a melta for one turn...

yes i knew this ..... I would have thought it was pretty obvious i was referring to the rapidfire meltaguns in the squad ....

also one of my main armies is orks ... kombi is spelt with a k

mon-keigh slayer wrote:yes i knew this ..... I would have thought it was pretty obvious i was referring to the rapidfire meltaguns in the squad ....

Ooo ooo I want Rapid fire meltaguns!

are they called Meltaguns of Dooooooooooooooooooooom

I think you should get rid of the meltaguns and take two heavy flamers in the Sternguard. That combined with combi-flamers...

And for my next trick, I will make this 30 boy mob disappear!!

Also, get rid of the redeemer, get teleport homers on your Tac Squads, and get more speeders.
Its fun to watch termies deep strike, absorb a ton of fire, then punish the offending parties for not running away instead.

Just my preference, but everyone has high speed melta these days, Land Raiders are overrated!

I have to say I'm very surprised no one mentioned the Sgt of the tacticals. Chainsword does not work well with a combi weapons since you not get an extra attack. The bolt pistol would be better for the option of using the pistol to shoot instead of the rapid fire weapon once the combi portion is used.

Meltaguns are not rapid fire, they are assault 1.

hah wow youre right i was confusing it with plasmaguns .... oh well, in that case ill definitely swap off the sternguards meltaguns for kombimeltas ...

<doesnt play a whole lot of imperial races lol>

edit:

i see what you mean now about the chainsword yea ... ok how about this.

hq
vulkan 190

elite
ironclad /w hvy flamer, ironclad assault launchers in drop pod 195
10x sternguard vets.10x kombi meltas . in drop pod. 335
6x assault termys, all /w th/ss riding in a Land raider redeemer 480

troop
10x tacticals, meltagun, multimelta in rhino. sgt with kombi flamer 220
10x tacticals, meltagun, multimelta in rhino. sgt with kombi flamer 220
10x tacticals, meltagun, multimelta in rhino. sgt with kombi flamer 220

fast attack
1x land speeder /w multimelta & heavy flamer 70
1x land speeder /w multimelta & heavy flamer 70

Dracos wrote:I have to say I'm very surprised no one mentioned the Sgt of the tacticals. Chainsword does not work well with a combi weapons since you not get an extra attack. The bolt pistol would be better for the option of using the pistol to shoot instead of the rapid fire weapon once the combi portion is used.

Meltaguns are not rapid fire, they are assault 1.

I mentioned it....

Dracos wrote:I have to say I'm very surprised no one mentioned the Sgt of the tacticals. Chainsword does not work well with a combi weapons since you not get an extra attack. The bolt pistol would be better for the option of using the pistol to shoot instead of the rapid fire weapon once the combi portion is used.

Or you just take the Combi-Melta/Flamer and keep your pistol. If I remember correctly standard wargear=bolter, bolt pistol, CCW for sarges. The combi aspect is merely an upgrade to his bolter. My dex isn't near me so I could be wrong on the wargear thing, but IIRC having a combi weapon shouldn't hurt his CC ability unless he has a PF.

Nah, all Space Marines have a Bolter + Bolt Pistol, but the sarge can switch his bolter for a chainsword for free. The combi weapon is an upgrade to the bolter, so combi = worse at cc

Monkee wrote:Nah, all Space Marines have a Bolter + Bolt Pistol, but the sarge can switch his bolter for a chainsword for free. The combi weapon is an upgrade to the bolter, so combi = worse at cc

Yep, just dug up my dex. You are right. So take a combi weapon and a PF, that is better anyway.

i forgot to post what i had changed of this list onto here as well as bolter&chainsword >< doh, check first psot for the newish list.

This thread brought sunshine... er... fiery doooooooooooooooom to my day. ^^