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HQ:
Chapter master - artificer armour, storm shield and thunder hammer -- 185 points
Honour guard squad - 5 men, chapter banner and digital laser -- 220


Troops.
10-man tactical marines plasma cannon and plasma rifle -- 195 points Rhino - 35 points
10-man tactical marines Heavy bolter and flamer -- 180 points rhino - 35 points

Elites.
Assault terminator squad 5 man squad, 2 with Hammernator status (Storm shield and thunderhammer.) 200 points
+
Land raider - 250 points

Heavy support
Whirlwind MAW - 85 points
Vindicator - 115 points

Chapter master - artificer armour, storm shield and thunder hammer -- 185 points
Honour guard squad - 5 men, chapter banner and digital laser -- 220

Honor Guard sucks.
I'd take another Terminator squad led by a Librarian w/ null zone, avenger.

sounds cool, thanks for the tip.


Should that be Uber terminators or short-range terminators?

Thunder hammer makes your chapter master strike last, so you're wasting his good initiative. I would add a relic blade, still a power weapon and S6 so not all bad. Though, really, unless you want orbital bombardment (which I don't think you can move in order to fire) I would go with a captain.

I agree with Wustenfux, honour guard suck. You already have assault terminators which are fine to get another troop unit.

Plasma cannon and heavy bolter don't really belong in a rhino. If you are going to combat squad them I would possibly take razorbacks instead to give back that fire power in the form of heavy bolters.

Whirlwinds aren't that affective. Get another vindicator instead.

5th ed. codex lists Orbital Bombardment for the chapter master as a heavy weapon, which would require him to not move in order to call it in. Additionally, I believe the FAQ says OB cannot be used from within a transport either.

Honor guard aren't worth the points since you can fill that roll more effectively with more assault terms.

Mercer's on the right track with removing the whirlwind, but I would take a predator with AC and HB sponsons for 85 points.

Is two scoring units enough? Its 1500 points and you only have two tactical squads. That's not gonna be enough to win an objective game, which will have a minimum of 3 points max of 5. HB's aren't good. ML or Multi-Melta are better I think.

I agree about OB. Its not that helpful. Captains are better than Chapter Masters because of points if nothing else. That Chapter Master is a huge point gobbler too. 185 points on one guy who can only be in one place at once? I'm assuming you're still going to reject put him in terminator armor and let him run with them. Dump the storm shield and thunder hammer. Give him a relic blade.

Honor Guard are indeed worthless. There are units that do their job better, and cheaper.

I'm split between vindicators and dakka preds. Removing those silly Honor Guard will free up a lot of points. You could do quite a bit.

Your real problems are a lack of scoring units and no where near enough shooty or crowd control. Most of all you need more scoring units. Get another tactical squad, or some scouts.

LoH makes an excellent point, in a 1500pt game you want at least 3 troop choices...

Personally, I'd recommend a third tactical squad, but you can take scouts as well.