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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/01/06 19:58:34
Subject: New to Chaos Daemons list - 1500 pts
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Regular Dakkanaut
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I haven't heard too much about Chaos Daemons, except that they're tricky to play with. I like the idea of a tricky army! So... this is a possible list I want to proxy before I decide to buy anything.
I tried to make it fluffy, while still effective...
Daemons have crap for anti-tank though :-/
HQ: - 520
Skarbrand, The Exiled One
Skulltaker
Herald of Tzeentch
-Bolt of Tzeentch
Troops: - 660
8 Bloodletters
6 Daemonettes
6 Daemonettes
9 Pink Horrors
-Bolt of Tzeentch
-The Changeling
7 Plaguebearers
7 Nurglings
Heavy Support - 320
Soul Grinder
-Tongue
Soul Grinder
-Tongue
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/01/06 20:17:29
Subject: New to Chaos Daemons list - 1500 pts
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Awesome Autarch
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Well, you are missing some of what I consider essential elements of a Daemon army. So here is my 2 cents for what it's worth.
Skarbrand is inferior to a regular bloodthirster. A regular BT is faster and doesn't give a benefit to the enemy!
Skulltaker is cool, but I prefer him on a juggernaut.
A herald of tzeentch needs to be on a disc.
Your troops choices are way, way too small, IMO. Deamonettes and Bloodletters die in droves to any type of firepower. You need big squads of them to survive, hit with any kind of punch and for objective holding. Plaguebearers are OK in small groups to sit on an objective as they are so resilient.
Soul grinders are not bad, they provide some ranged punch but honestly, the things I feel are necessary in a good Daemon list are:
Masque
at least on unit of Flamers (these, combined with the mask, will wipe out entire units at a time, it is disgusting)
Bloodcrushers (best assault unit in the game, and combined with the mask to overcome their slow speed and the wound allocation rules, these guys are devastating)
Fiends (fast, hit super hard, great unit)
I would go with something more like this:
Masque
BT with unholy might
Bloodcrushers: 6
Flamers: 3
Fiends: 4
Blood letters: 15
Daemonettes: 15
Plaguebearers: 5 (for sitting on an objective)
Screamers: 7 (awesome for busting tanks)
Hopefully some other Daemon players add in their opinions, but that list there is balanced and gives up a lot less KP's.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/01/06 20:23:00
Subject: Re:New to Chaos Daemons list - 1500 pts
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Graham McNeil
Florida
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give the soulgrinders phlegm instead of tongue
also if your going to field daemonettes bring a bit more as they tend to die before they get into combat.
also put skulltaker on a juggernaut and maybe add some bloodcrushers
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/01/07 11:59:28
Subject: New to Chaos Daemons list - 1500 pts
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Not arguing with you guys, just asking questions. I know 0 about Chaos Daemons, never seen them in play ever.
Reecius wrote:Well, you are missing some of what I consider essential elements of a Daemon army. So here is my 2 cents for what it's worth.
Skarbrand is inferior to a regular bloodthirster. A regular BT is faster and doesn't give a benefit to the enemy!
I was thinking his aura could help out the daemonettes. But a flying unit is awesome.
Skulltaker is cool, but I prefer him on a juggernaut.
I was going to put him with the Bloodletters, but if I take Blood Crushers, this works
A herald of tzeentch needs to be on a disc.
He was going to be with the horrors
Masque
She seems VERY squishy on paper. Two wounds and can't join a group :-/
Insanityphr33k wrote:give the soulgrinders phlegm instead of tongue
This is anti-troop, I need anti-vehicle though.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/01/07 13:21:05
Subject: New to Chaos Daemons list - 1500 pts
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Savage Khorne Berserker Biker
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dont put the herald of TZ on a disc, put him on a chariot. the stats are better and he becomes a very hard to kill tank hunter.
as already said put skull taker on a juggernaught.
phlegm the grinders.
regular thirster over skarbrand.
the masque is fail dont waste an HQ option on her.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/01/07 13:36:53
Subject: Re:New to Chaos Daemons list - 1500 pts
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Lesser Daemon of Chaos
Groningen, The Netherlands
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Reecius gives good advice.
Personally I dislike Soulgrinders because of their vulnerability to meltas. Soulgrinder can die to one shot, where a Prince is more resilient/less dependant on chance. The Masque is good, but consider the fact that a Prince with MoS and Pavane costs only 120 points (20 points more) for a more diverse threat and added resilience.
I'd do this:
250 Thirster
100 Herald of Tzeentch, Chariot, Bolt, Legion, MoSorcery
105 3 Flamers
190 6 Fiends of Slaanesh, Unholy Might
105 7 Plaguebearers
158 9 Pink Horrors, Changeling
112 8 Daemonettes of Slaanesh
80 5 Screamers of Tzeentch
140 Daemon Prince of Chaos, Mark of Tzeentch, Bolt of Tzeentch
140 Daemon Prince of Chaos, Mark of Tzeentch, Bolt of Tzeentch
120 Daemon Prince of Chaos, Mark of Slaanesh, Pavane of Slaanesh
1500 points
Has speed, resilience and a broad threatrange...
Whatever you do, it'll take some time to figure out what you want, but it;ll be fun and different to play with...
Good luck.
Cilithan
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Fiery the angels fell; deep thunder rolled around their shores; burning with the fires of Orc.
Armies:
Daemons: 5000+ points
CSM/Black Legion: 5000+ points
Deathwatch/Knights: 5000 points
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/01/08 09:00:30
Subject: New to Chaos Daemons list - 1500 pts
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Regular Dakkanaut
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I really like this list! A few questions though.
I read the BT should always have Unholy Might and the psyker protection wargear, opinions?
Why plaguebearers rather than nurglings?
Daemonettes need to be at 12, gotta shave points somewhere.
Screamers have melta bombs; but with only one attack, how useful are they at taking down vehicles, especially if they move?
Daemon princes are nastiness, but is one Pavane worth it? Seems like something you need multiples of or nothing.
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