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updated list, taking the full Mech advice, and sterngaurd, I can proxy up some stern gaurd for now i guess.

HQ:Librarian w/ StrmBltr (3) = 103 pts.
ELT: Sterngaurd, x2meltagun(10), powerweapon(15) = 150
Razorback, +HK = 50
TRP: Tactical (10 man), PwrWpn, Flamer, Missile = 185
Tactical (10 man), PwrWpn, Flamer, Missile = 185
Rhino(s) x2, both w/ strmbltr = 90
Tactical (6 man), PwrWpn = 121
Rzrback, w/StrmBltr= 50
FST: Landspeeder, w/multi/flamer = 70

GRAND TOTAL = 1004pts.

Its, a little over 1k, but usually my gaming group has a 5 pnt buffer lol.

this list is based on figs i actually own.... though i dnt own sterngaurd models I have reasonable proxies (fully painted marines). I posted an earlier list, and I took some advice, I have mechonized transport for all squads, and i took sterngaurd in loo of command squad, and dropped my captain for Librarian.

Thoughts???

Not bad. I would take one away form the 6man razorback tac squad and give everyone melta bombs. That should bring you under 1000 pts.

Other than that it seems like it could do some damage. The meltas give good anti armor and you have enough troops to take objectives.

If you can, I would suggest using TL assault cannons on razorbacks. They are extremely useful being TL and rending.

Cheers,

paulguise wrote:Not bad. I would take one away form the 6man razorback tac squad and give everyone melta bombs. That should bring you under 1000 pts.

Other than that it seems like it could do some damage. The meltas give good anti armor and you have enough troops to take objectives.

If you can, I would suggest using TL assault cannons on razorbacks. They are extremely useful being TL and rending.

Cheers,

Can you take meltabombs on every member of a tactical squad or did you mean or sergeants only ?

paulguise wrote:Not bad. I would take one away form the 6man razorback tac squad and give everyone melta bombs. That should bring you under 1000 pts.

Other than that it seems like it could do some damage. The meltas give good anti armor and you have enough troops to take objectives.

If you can, I would suggest using TL assault cannons on razorbacks. They are extremely useful being TL and rending.

Cheers,

yes... although the razorback were built when you had all of three options for weapons.... I would LOVE to build some new Turrets with AssltCnns!!! melta bombs are a good idea... so if i drop the 6th man.... brings me down too 988 pts, if i give melta bombs to two of the sargs +10pts, brings me too 998pts...?? am i getting this right, if i give bombs to all the sargs of tac squads, that puts me back at 1003 pts.

@Mr. DK - Yes, I meant the sergeants only. It would be awesome for everyone to have meltabombs but that is too much awesome.

@hcordes - I would say squeeze them in where you can. If only one or two sarges have them, then its better then nothing. I would put them on the sarges you will be planning on using for CC. Make sense?

Cheers

paulguise wrote:@Mr. DK - Yes, I meant the sergeants only. It would be awesome for everyone to have meltabombs but that is too much awesome.

@hcordes - I would say squeeze them in where you can. If only one or two sarges have them, then its better then nothing. I would put them on the sarges you will be planning on using for CC. Make sense?

Cheers

Right, i gathered that! lol thanks for the tip(s)! i have yet to play 5th ed so i am putting together some army lists, that make it at least seem like i know what i am doing lol!


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pics of the army as it would hit the table, well not really... but here are the pics!!

http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/74656-1k%20Space%20Marines.html
http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/74657-Speeder%252F%20Libi.html
http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/74658-Tactical%201.html
http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/74659-Tact%202.html
http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/74660-Tact%203.html
http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/74661-%26quot%3BSterngaurd%26quot%3B.html

Nice. Painted is always rocking!

I would drop the stormbolter on the Libby it's better to keep the Bolt Pistol to gain another attack with your Force weapon

I would take two combi-meltas instead of Meltaguns on the sternguard and lose the power weapon, they should be shooting, use your tactical squads to screen and take the assaults for them.

Also I would get a meltagun and a multi-melta on the tactical squad

General_Chaos wrote:I would drop the stormbolter on the Libby it's better to keep the Bolt Pistol to gain another attack with your Force weapon

I would take two combi-meltas instead of Meltaguns on the sternguard and lose the power weapon, they should be shooting, use your tactical squads to screen and take the assaults for them.

Also I would get a meltagun and a multi-melta on the tactical squad

As i have stated, i play with what I have, i do not have alt arms for my Libi (yet) so he gets a storm bolter. I do not have figs for combi-weapons.... i can get a multi-melts into a tact. squad, but he's not painted yet.. at least not to the point where I wouldn't be slightly emmbaresed to put him on a table top.
As it stands i don't actually have Sternguard models... or anything I built for that purposes to LOOK like vetrens.


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but i will think about the changes you have suggested. Thanks =)

hcordes wrote:Thoughts???

Oh figure your wrote this wanting my thoughts...

If that all you have then rock on

General_Chaos wrote:

hcordes wrote:Thoughts???

Oh figure your wrote this wanting my thoughts...

If that all you have then rock on

its cool, i got combi-weapon advice already, and lets why they have melta guns, cuz thats what i have right now lol

hcordes wrote:updated list, taking the full Mech advice, and sterngaurd, I can proxy up some stern gaurd for now i guess.

HQ:Librarian w/ StrmBltr (3) = 103 pts.
ELT: Sterngaurd, x2meltagun(10), powerweapon(15) = 150
Razorback, +HK = 50
TRP: Tactical (10 man), PwrWpn, Flamer, Missile = 185
Tactical (10 man), PwrWpn, Flamer, Missile = 185
Rhino(s) x2, both w/ strmbltr = 90
Tactical (6 man), PwrWpn = 121
Rzrback, w/StrmBltr= 50
FST: Landspeeder, w/multi/flamer = 70

GRAND TOTAL = 1004pts.

Its, a little over 1k, but usually my gaming group has a 5 pnt buffer lol.

this list is based on figs i actually own.... though i dnt own sterngaurd models I have reasonable proxies (fully painted marines). I posted an earlier list, and I took some advice, I have mechonized transport for all squads, and i took sterngaurd in loo of command squad, and dropped my captain for Librarian.

Thoughts???

Combi-melta's are good investments for the future. Convert some when you get the chance (you can also get one out of the Force Commander Kit).

Also: Why put storm bolters on your rhinos? They already come with one storm bolter by default. I guess if you just trying to kill those last twenty points it works but I thought I'd say it in case you didn't notice. I didn't for like, a week XD.

Since these are figures you actually own its not a bad list on paper. I find the best way to tailor an army is too keep playing it. Over time you find weaknesses and strengths that you can fix and build on. I'd look into picking up some heavy support next time your out to shop for more models. Some predators or vindicators could help give your army that killing punch it is lacking at the moment. 3 Scoring units is a bit much for a 1000 point battle. So whenever you get more options, removing a tactical squad in favor of a heavy hitter won't hurt you.

LordofHats wrote:

Combi-melta's are good investments for the future. Convert some when you get the chance (you can also get one out of the Force Commander Kit).

Also: Why put storm bolters on your rhinos? They already come with one storm bolter by default. I guess if you just trying to kill those last twenty points it works but I thought I'd say it in case you didn't notice. I didn't for like, a week XD.

Since these are figures you actually own its not a bad list on paper. I find the best way to tailor an army is too keep playing it. Over time you find weaknesses and strengths that you can fix and build on. I'd look into picking up some heavy support next time your out to shop for more models. Some predators or vindicators could help give your army that killing punch it is lacking at the moment. 3 Scoring units is a bit much for a 1000 point battle. So whenever you get more options, removing a tactical squad in favor of a heavy hitter won't hurt you.

i do have plans to get a pred. how soon though? remains to be seen. I promised myself (and my wife) after i bought Shadowsun, i wasn't going to buy any more figures, until i was done with my "great project" i've working on for like 5 years! I have all the figures I need, i just have to paint them, I've been building the Ultra Marines Third Battle Company, so just about all of my army lists stems from what ever I can make from that.


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I do have a Dred I can equip with either AssCan. or TL Lass. w/ missle.


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I have a question for you guys> i am also working on a 1000pt SM list, and my list is mech and shooty. What is better, captian, or librarian? I've never used a librarian but he seems better for a 1k list becaues i save points and he is goot at shooting (smite) and keeping units alive (GOI)...
Captain or Librarian?

Mr. DK wrote:I have a question for you guys> i am also working on a 1000pt SM list, and my list is mech and shooty. What is better, captian, or librarian? I've never used a librarian but he seems better for a 1k list becaues i save points and he is goot at shooting (smite) and keeping units alive (GOI)...
Captain or Librarian?

When in doubt go Librarian, especially if you want a light on points HQ. Captains need upgrades to be effective. Librarians are good at their base points cost.

LordofHats wrote:

Mr. DK wrote:I have a question for you guys> i am also working on a 1000pt SM list, and my list is mech and shooty. What is better, captian, or librarian? I've never used a librarian but he seems better for a 1k list becaues i save points and he is goot at shooting (smite) and keeping units alive (GOI)...
Captain or Librarian?

When in doubt go Librarian, especially if you want a light on points HQ. Captains need upgrades to be effective. Librarians are good at their base points cost.

Yeah I started with the Captain, switched over to Libi when i noticed the points cost, I dropped the Capt and the Comnd Squad, to go with SternGrd and Lib, also managed to get another Rhino for my second tact squad making my whole army Mech.

Yes, Librarians are also good for null zoning annoying creatures that have 3+ invulnerable saves, Librarian seconded.

rdlb wrote:Yes, Librarians are also good for null zoning annoying creatures that have 3+ invulnerable saves, Librarian seconded.

plus they kill you with their mind.... with their MIND. how freakin cool is that???