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K so I just wanted some feedback and maybe a little extra help with the 1250 list but here is the rules
We are playing with 4 mmaybe 5 people( we got CSM, vanilla SM, Tyrnids, Necrons, and Orks(me))
teams are random and list have to be written before you know what the others are taking. Mainly to prevent the SM(at least 8K pts) and CSM player( 5 or 6 K) to tailor their lists. The battles go as follows

For 500pts - Only troop and fast attack

22 Sluggas -Nob, PK, BP
21 Sluggas -Nob, PK, BP
12 Sluggas -Nob, PK, BP w/ Trukk- RPJ

My thinking is the boys can duke it out and the trukk can sit till its needed then get there fast.

1250 - No special char(aka no names)
(orignally forgot this so was trying to go for pure assault with mad doc) so what i got so far is

Warboss -bike, squig, cyborg, PK

25 Shoota -Nob, PK, BP

25 Slugga -Nob, PK, BP

25 Slugga -Nob, PK, BP

25 Slugga -Nob, PK, BP

4 Nob Bikers - Painboy, 2 BC one w/ 'eavy armour(for wound allocation), 1 PK w/ Waaagh Banner ALL with cyborg

1 DeffKopta - TL Rokkits ( I had 55 pts left by my calculations so this covers most of it)

2000 - Anything goes except Apoc units(even though we will be at apoc points combined
(I tried to go for a shooty list, yes I know I need full Lootas I dont have the models unfortunately so gotta make do)

Warboss - 'eavy armour, squig, cyborg, PK

Big Mek - Shokk Attack Gun, cyborg, 'eavy armour

30 Shoota -Nob, PK, BP

30 Shoota -Nob, PK, BP

12 Slugga -Nob PK,BP w/ Trukk - RPJ, Boarding Plank

12 Slugga -Nob PK,BP w/ Trukk - RPJ, Boarding Plank

10 Grots w/ Runtherder(to go with Shokk Gun)

8 Lootas

8 Burnas

7 Nobs - Painboy, Cyborg, 'eavy
BC, eavy, cyborg Waaagh Banner
BC, 'eavy
BC, 'eavy, Cyborg
PK, 'eavy, Cyborg
PK, 'eavy, Cyborg, BP
Kombi-Scorcha, 'eavy, Cyborg

6 Flash Gits - More Dakka, Shootier, Blastier(forget off top of my head the third one but all three) Painboy
w/ Captain Badrukk

Any comments, Ideas, Critism is welcome thanks in advance

Long time since last time to see flash gitz...

Haha ya, but they are kinda my underdog project. Everyone hates em cause their cost is so ridiculous but last time I played an big game they made sure that my troops could hold the center objective which won us the game. Also wiped a Genestealer unit but that was some lucky rolls.

Flash Gitz are a fun surprise at times. Their cost is too much, but they can be a pain in the ass with the painboy and all the shooting options.

1250 - I say drop the deffkopta, bump 3 squads of boyz up to 30 each, and drop the last one to 12 in a trukk, should work out to close to the same points. I don't normally advocate taking partial mech, but in this case it may be your best bet.

Use something other than 'eavy armor for allocation on your bikers (revisit this at 2000 in a sec). Take something useful like a kombi-weapon, rather than paying the 5 points for something you already get from the bike. That, and, some people balk at calling a 'eavy armored biker different for allocation purposes.

2000 - Needs more transports for your elite models. Nobs, Burnas, and Flash Gitz will get torn apart because they're not really any harder to wound than regular boyz (painboyz aside), and will do much more damage if they get close.

For your Nobz, save yourself a few points in the differentiation by leaving 'eavy armor off of one or two rather than adding equipment you don't plan to use (like the kombi skorcha), and allocate power weapon hits or AP4- shots to the guys with just Cybork, since they wouldn't get the armor save anyway (and your Nobz should see lots of that stuff). Also, note that Cybork is all or nothing, gotta fix that.

1250 & 2000... I see no KFF mek. Mork and Gork both disapprove.

Can I use a BC or PK and have a Kombi weapon? Sorry maybe a noob question but i never was sure. Ya the KFF should be but i never seem to make the 5+ save for on foot. in 2k i should though your right.

Edit: The original plan with the 2k list was to sit in cover and wait for them to come to me. I will have a teammate but who knows what race or army type. I just thought it might work as a surprise factor because I usually play my Orks to get stuck in and grind em down.

Yes, you can. The Choppa can be traded in for a Big Choppa or Power Klaw, and the Slugga can be traded in for a Shoota or a Kombi separately.

Ok ill definitely switch that then. The 2000 list I guess ill have to sack the Shokk Attack Gun, :( I was looking forward to that. I guess I could go completely random and field a wierdboy and a shokk attack gun