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Hi All,

I'm looking on building an IG list for a tournament with wonky FOC restrictions (1 FA, 1 HS, among others, Adepticon Team Style, for those of you who are familiar with the format) and I'm looking for more bang for my buck, so as a result, I'm kicking around squadroning some tanks. Now, I've never been a fan unless they were vanilla LRBTs, but a couple things I'm considering are:
3 x Hellhounds,
2 x LR Demolishers

Has anyone run these vehicles like this before and to what effect did they perform?

As a marine player I've only had speeder squadrons, and the only benefit I've seen is that they can all Deep Strike or come in from reserves together.

This can be huge, but having 20 CSM bolter shots take down speeders can be rough, even glancing becomes dangerous since immobilized counts as destroyed.

Buy you'll have higher armor so maybe its not such a huge problem...

The biggest concern with the hellhounds is that AV12 can be penetrated pretty easily. On a penetrating hit, the vehicle is destroyed 1/2 of the time instead of 1/3 of the time.
Also you need to allocate hits between the squad. This can happen from 3 MM attack bikes, a vendetta gunship, or a drop pod full of combi-melta sternguard.
Considering that 3 hellhounds w/heavy subbers will run you 420 points, that's a big investment to be so fragile

well I don't normally run squadrons of IG tanks except for Hydras. That being said when you play large point games 2500 or are restricted (like you are) they can be useful. A couple of things I've seen effective are using a regular leman russ squadroned with either executioner or a vanquisher with pask. mostly with pask because tanks can stay at extreme range since both leman russes can fire thier turret and regular russ can pop smoke and or take hits for the vanq while it pounds away at armor. Also if you have Creed you can outflank with demolishers which is pretty cool.

Pros: more bang for the FoC Slot, more shots at at a given point in time during the shooting phase.
Cons: easier to die, wasting of shots as they can't split fire.
Neutral: larger footprint.

Sanctjud wrote:Cons: ... wasting of shots as they can't split fire.

I'm actually more worried about this than the 1/6 additional change of my stuff dying. Do you think 3 hellhounds would result in much overkill? I think about how devastating 3 flamers in a squad is, and that makes me think not. I'll have to run a few dry run games and see how well they perform.

Well the deal is FoC Slots.
If you have 3 available hvy slots...single Leman Russes in each offer more flexibility at the cost of more kill points.

My rationale for 'wasting of shots' is that there will be situations where you don't need 3 templates hittting a 5 man tactical squad when only 1 was sufficient.
You just payed XYZ points for something that has just 'wasted' a shot that would have been more useful elsewhere.

As with all things 40K there will be opputunity costs and there will be situations where a given thing does extremely well and then not so good. I feel being tied to all shooting one target is restrictive and limits the flexibility (with respect to vehicle squadrons), simply I find that a con.