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So sorry to disappoint but I have a few other questions about the codex.

First one is about WAAAGH Banners in Nob squads. The rule says that a squad with a banner get's +1 WS. There is however no limit on how many you can take. So can I then take 6 of them and get WS 10 Nobs? Stupidly expensive I know, but just curious.

Next question. What happens if a shokk attack gun rolls double six's and hits a vehicle? Rule says: Any model hit by the gun this turn are removed from play. Vehicles take an automatic penetrating hit.' I think I'm being silly here but isn't that a little redundant? So the vehicle is removed from play and then takes a penetrating hit?

Next, do fearless psykers automatically pass psychic tests as a psychic test is a leadership test?

Thanks for helping!

Aya wrote:So sorry to disappoint but I have a few other questions about the codex.

First one is about WAAAGH Banners in Nob squads. The rule says that a squad with a banner get's +1 WS. There is however no limit on how many you can take. So can I then take 6 of them and get WS 10 Nobs? Stupidly expensive I know, but just curious.

Next question. What happens if a shokk attack gun rolls double six's and hits a vehicle? Rule says: Any model hit by the gun this turn are removed from play. Vehicles take an automatic penetrating hit.' I think I'm being silly here but isn't that a little redundant? So the vehicle is removed from play and then takes a penetrating hit?

Next, do fearless psykers automatically pass psychic tests as a psychic test is a leadership test?

Thanks for helping!

"A mob including a waagh banner has +1 WS"
Does the mob have a waagh banner? Yes -> +1WS.
Not +1 for each waagh banner, +1 for having any waagh banners in the mob.

Yes, by RAW the SAG removes the vehicle from play and deals it a penetrating hit. Most people I know play that it is supposed to instead just deal the penetrating hit, but RAW is RAW and YMMV.

I dont know about the WAAAGH Banners, but I would think that it would not stack.

On the Shokk attack gun, since it says "vehicles take an automatic penetrating hit", I would think that you would use only the penetrating hit. I have yet to see an instance where a vehicle can be removed from play, with the exception of the Vortex nades and missiles.

I do know, however, that fearless does not affect psychic checks. Fearless makes you pass morale based checks - Direswords, force weapons, psychic tests, etc. are not affected.

Fearless units auto pass MORALE tests, not all Leadership tests.

Kudos, thanks for the answers

Aya wrote:First one is about WAAAGH Banners in Nob squads. The rule says that a squad with a banner get's +1 WS. There is however no limit on how many you can take. So can I then take 6 of them and get WS 10 Nobs? Stupidly expensive I know, but just curious.

No, you get +1WS for having a Waaagh Banner, not +1WS per banner. Multiple Banners are helpful however in case the banner bearer pops his clogs.

Next question. What happens if a shokk attack gun rolls double six's and hits a vehicle? Rule says: Any model hit by the gun this turn are removed from play. Vehicles take an automatic penetrating hit.' I think I'm being silly here but isn't that a little redundant? So the vehicle is removed from play and then takes a penetrating hit?

RaW: The Vehicle is Removed.
RaI: The vehicle is removed (unless you think they didn't intend to write the codex).

Most people, however, like to ignore the rules.

Next, do fearless psykers automatically pass psychic tests as a psychic test is a leadership test?

No. Fearless only helps for Morale tests. All Morale tests are Leadership tests, but not all Leadership tests are morale tests.

Can I please expand on the fearless psykers question.

In the Ork Codex it does mention that Weirdboyz leadership is affected by "Mob Rule". I had taken this to mean that they never need to take a test if their Mob is over 10 models. Now, however, I realise that I am probably wrong.

My question is this: If I have a Mob of 30 Ork Boyz including a Weirdboy, does his leadership go up to 30? Something tells me that it can never go higher than 10 but I want to make sure this is the case. If it is 30 then does this mean he can not fail a leadership test?

Please clarify this for me. I am just starting out with Orks and want to make sure I know all the relevant rules before making a list.

Many thanks.

No one characteristic can go above 10, except for armor values.

AffliKtion wrote:No one characteristic can go above 10, except for armor values.

And attacks (vis Bonus Attacks).

But yeah, in a Mob of 30, your Ld is Still 10. Ld can never ever ever ever under any circumstances EVER go above 10.

Many thanks. So I am still subject to the dice gods to see if my Weirdboy actually does anything. Good to know!

Another quick question guys.

Say I have 20 gretchin and 2 Runtherds in a unit. Am I correct in assuming that I use the Runtherds leadership when testing for Morale but as the Runtherds are subject to "Mob Rule" their leadership is 10 (unless I lose more than half the unit) ?

Sorry for these basic questions.

Daemon - Weirdboy Ld is also covered explicitly in the Ork FAQ.

Daemon_Dave wrote:Many thanks. So I am still subject to the dice gods to see if my Weirdboy actually does anything. Good to know!

Another quick question guys.

Say I have 20 gretchin and 2 Runtherds in a unit. Am I correct in assuming that I use the Runtherds leadership when testing for Morale but as the Runtherds are subject to "Mob Rule" their leadership is 10 (unless I lose more than half the unit) ?

Sorry for these basic questions.

Yup. You have 22 models, so your Ld is 10 (or 7, don't forget the Mob rule is Optional, you can use your normal Ld if you want) .

Excellent, many thanks GWAR. I was not 100% sure if Gretchin counted towards the Mob Rule but thought they should.

I don´t have my codex handy, but I am pretty sure that gretchin do not have the Mob Rule.

Please correct me if I´m wrong.

Warboss Tufgrim wrote:I don´t have my codex handy, but I am pretty sure that gretchin do not have the Mob Rule.

Please correct me if I´m wrong.

No you are right.

The Runtherds however, do have the rule. And the Mob rule uses the number of Models in the unit, regardless whether or not those models have the Mob Rule or not. i.e. so long as a Runtherd is alive, you benefit from the Mob Rule. If they all die, the Grotz go back to their cruddy Ld 5

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nosferatu1001 wrote:Daemon - Weirdboy Ld is also covered explicitly in the Ork FAQ.

Nosferatu1001, many thanks for pointing this out to me. I read the Errata in the ORK FAQ and this has also answered the Runtherd question. GWAR and myself were wrong about it (as far as I can understand).

The Errata states:

Page 50 and 100 – Runtherds.
The special rules ‘Waaagh!’ and ‘Mob Rule’
should be deleted.

This means that as Runtherds do NOT get the "Mob Rule" special rule, the gretchin unit only has a leadership of 7. The Runtherds base leadership! Can anyone prove me wrong in this?

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nosferatu1001 wrote:Daemon - Weirdboy Ld is also covered explicitly in the Ork FAQ.

Nosferatu1001, many thanks for pointing this out to me. I read the Errata in the ORK FAQ and this has also answered the Runtherd question. GWAR and myself were wrong about it (as far as I can understand).

The Errata states:

Page 50 and 100 – Runtherds.
The special rules ‘Waaagh!’ and ‘Mob Rule’
should be deleted.

This means that as Runtherds do NOT get the "Mob Rule" special rule, the gretchin unit only has a leadership of 7. The Runtherds base leadership! Can anyone prove me wrong in this?

nope, that's spot on...ignore any reference to the contrary.

Heh, gogo GW.

Forgot to Check the Errata myself, should know better by now