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What is the maximum a necron destroyer may move and still fire?

jb1 wrote:What is the maximum a necron destroyer may move and still fire?

As far as it wants?

I am not quite sure what you are asking here...

Necron destroyers are bikes, not vehicles. Bikes can move up to 12" and still fire; or they can move from 12-24" while turbo boosting and then be unable to fire.


Sliggoth

Gwar! wrote:

jb1 wrote:What is the maximum a necron destroyer may move and still fire?

As far as it wants?

I am not quite sure what you are asking here...

...really can't put it more straight forward than that

They aren't vehicles they are jetbikes. BGB pg 53

Who ever said they were vehicles?

With the wording of his question. The only units I am aware of that have a maximum distance they can move & still shoot are vehicles & bikes. (Disregarding what type of weapon it is they are shooting.)

Shas'O Dorian wrote:With the wording of his question. The only units I am aware of that have a maximum distance they can move & still shoot are vehicles & bikes. (Disregarding what type of weapon it is they are shooting.)

As I am aware of, there is only one type of "destroyer" body for the entire necron army. Only three types may use the destroyer body;destroyer, heavy destroyer, and the necron lord. With this in mind the weapon shouldn't matter. I have some people say you may move 6", and others say 12",I believe it to be 12". I am asking here on this forum just for others input and a place for the ones that believe it to be 6" to see...

Codex says "Destroyers are jetbikes for movement purposes. They can also move and fire their Gauss Cannons." So... Since Jetbikes are have the same rules as Bikes (with a few exceptions regarding how they move) that means that they have the "Relentless" special rules (and turbo boosters, so they can also move 24.") This means that they can move 12" and still fire. This is further explained that they can "move and fire their Gauss cannons." So, they can definitely move 12" and fire. Since 12" is the normal Jetbike/bike move.

Therefore, those people who say that they can only move 6" don't really have a leg to stand on. In fact, if you want, you can counter that the "They can also move and fire their Gauss Cannons." meaning that they can use turbo-boosters and still fire. Then just haggle them down to 12" and fire.

But still, there isn't any justification that I can see to say that destroyers can only move 6" and still fire.

The Destroyer body (so Destroyers, Heavy Destroyers and Destroyer Lord) can move 12" and still fire. They can all also T.Boost up to 24" but then can't fire.

headrattle wrote:Codex says "Destroyers are jetbikes for movement purposes. They can also move and fire their Gauss Cannons." So... Since Jetbikes are have the same rules as Bikes (with a few exceptions regarding how they move) that means that they have the "Relentless" special rules (and turbo boosters, so they can also move 24.") This means that they can move 12" and still fire. This is further explained that they can "move and fire their Gauss cannons." So, they can definitely move 12" and fire. Since 12" is the normal Jetbike/bike move.

Therefore, those people who say that they can only move 6" don't really have a leg to stand on. In fact, if you want, you can counter that the "They can also move and fire their Gauss Cannons." meaning that they can use turbo-boosters and still fire. Then just haggle them down to 12" and fire.

But still, there isn't any justification that I can see to say that destroyers can only move 6" and still fire.

They do not have the relentless rule, because they are not Jetbikes, they simply count as Jetbikes for movement purposes. Mostly it's knitpicking because they can move and fire anyway due to their own special rules, however, it does mean that a destroyer cannot fire it's gauss cannon (of either variety) and then proceed to launch an assault.

Also, claiming that the "they can also move and fire their Gauss Cannons." is sufficient to override the Turbo-Boosters restriction on taking any other voluntary action that turn leaves you with no leg to stand on, instead of countering with that and trying to come to an agreement, you should counter with actual rules and try to educate the other player on how the game works...

Drunkspleen wrote:They do not have the relentless rule, because they are not Jetbikes, they simply count as Jetbikes for movement purposes. Mostly it's knitpicking because they can move and fire anyway due to their own special rules, however, it does mean that a destroyer cannot fire it's gauss cannon (of either variety) and then proceed to launch an assault.

That is a damn good point. You are right, they can not fire their weapons and then launch an assault. Didn't even occur to me.

Also, claiming that the "they can also move and fire their Gauss Cannons." is sufficient to override the Turbo-Boosters restriction on taking any other voluntary action that turn leaves you with no leg to stand on, instead of countering with that and trying to come to an agreement, you should counter with actual rules and try to educate the other player on how the game works...

My point is that saying that it can turbo boost and fire is more valid then saying that it can only move 6" and fire. Neither are correct though when you get right down to it. But you can't expect others to always be rational.