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Hi guys,
I recently started collecting a SM army, my usual opponent fields mechanised IG, while I played 'nids it was usually a fair fight but now I get badly beaten constantly, I'm not a sore loser but I wondered if maybe it was my army list.

So it'd be great if I got some constructive critisism on this.

HQ- Space Marine Captain 100
Terminator Armour 40
Lightning Claws 15
Melta Bombs 5

Elites- Terminator Assault Squad 200
5x TH+SS free

Troops- Space Marine Tactical Squad 90
5x Extra marines 80
Meltagun 5
Sgt. Chainsword +plamsa Pistol 15

Space Marine Tactical Squad 90
5x Extra marines 80
Meltagun 5
Sgt. Chainsword+Plamsa Pistol 15

Space Marine Scouts 75
5x Camo Cloaks 15
4x Sniper rifles free
Missile Launcher 10

HS- Devastator Squad 90
3x Heavy Bolter 45
Plasma Cannon 25
Sgt. Chainsword+Plamsa Pistol 15

Thanks
Rich

You'll need some transports for your tac. squads to stop them succumbing to sheer volume of fire. Also, always take the free missile launcher/multimelta with your squads.

The terminators would love a LR, but then you'll start racking up the points. If you have to deep strike them, perhaps 'shooty' termies might be a better option.

The devs. can work well, but a lot of people will say they are expensive. If you take them try a 4 x missile launcher build.

However, I might drop the scouts and the devastators and instead stick in a couple of vanilla dreads and rhinos for your tac squads. - Don't worry too much about losing a troop choice as two should be enough in a 1000pt game.

q060310 wrote:HQ- Space Marine Captain 100
Terminator Armour 40
Lightning Claws 15
Melta Bombs 5

Captains are not the greatest choice of HQ with the exception of using them to get a command squad. Librarain in Terminator armour w/ storm shield is awesome, Chaplain w/ Terminator Armour or Jump pack, or one of the special characters (Vulcan, Pedro, etc)

Elites- Terminator Assault Squad 200
5x TH+SS free

While the best squad in the SM codex (IMO) they need a transport

Troops- Space Marine Tactical Squad 90
5x Extra marines 80
Meltagun 5
Sgt. Chainsword +plamsa Pistol 15

Space Marine Tactical Squad 90
5x Extra marines 80
Meltagun 5
Sgt. Chainsword+Plamsa Pistol 15

Tacticals need Rhinos. Drop the Plasma Pistols they are to expensive and can kill your Sargent. Take a Plasma Cannon or Plasma Gun if you need the extra punch. Always take the Heavy Weapon free or otherwise.

Space Marine Scouts 75
5x Camo Cloaks 15
4x Sniper rifles free
Missile Launcher 10

Sniper Rifle Scouts always under perform. If you just have to have them then max out the squad and take Telion

HS- Devastator Squad 90
3x Heavy Bolter 45
Plasma Cannon 25
Sgt. Chainsword+Plamsa Pistol 15

Devastator Squads don't get any respect but are really good IF you keep them cheap. Stick with Heavy Bolters or Missile Launchers. Plasma Cannons and Lascannons are way overpriced. Always add a couple extra marines to suck up some wounds before you start losing your Heavy Weapons.
Rich

Hey guys,

thanks for the advice, played today with no scouts or devastators, took the rhinos and a dreadnought also an librarian in terminator armour.

you know if you upgrade him with gate of infinity and smite you can be firing at them in the first turn with rapid fire weaponry?

was a good fight, still overwhelmed by tanks but oh well!

I'm not sure exactly what the new army is, but for the old one the problem was that all of your anti vehicle was close ranged attacks or close combat.

My favorite anti vehicle is assault squads with melta bombs. Bikes with melta bombs. Attack bike with multi melta. Dreadought with multi melta and drop pod. Chain fist.

Predators with lascannons and lascannon sponsons can be good. Something fast to get side shots is good. Guard Chimeras have weak side armor.

Don't forget that when you assault a vehicle you hit it in the rear. You can take out guard vehicles pretty fast if you can assault them with melta bombs or krak grenades even work good. Power fists can destroy vehicles, but are usually a bit pricy. Chain fists are great for assaulting.

Any terminator squad that is outfitted for hand to hand needs a way to get to the enemy without getting shot at first. If you deep strike them or drop pod them don't do it alone. They will die before they get to attack. Land Raiders work well, but are expensive. Regular land raiders have the twin lascannons and are good in their own right for kills and will transport well.