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for some nice 'True Scale Scouts'.

Does anyone have any idea (and links!) to models (maybe in the 1/35 scale?) that would be a good place to start?

Maybe 1/35 military legs with scouts torsos, miscellaneous bits and green stuff?

The 'power armored' Marines I'm trying to 'match' are based off of the "terminator armor to power armor" method.

Any and all help appreciated!

Quite frankly?

I'd say the Scouts are the right size as is. They haven't gotten *all* of the enhancements, so it's not really necessary.

Still, its a very unique idea and the look great so far.

I dunno, i am not a fan. these look like they would end up larger than true scale marines, which is just not at all right....

To be honest I do not like those "true scale" scouts at all. They should only be slightly different than the current model, to put them a head or so over cadians. That model is many heads over the guardsman or current marine. It just looks huge and silly.

The model is way too bulky. Especially those legs.

ph34r wrote:It just looks huge and silly.

QFT

It's fricking Sylvester Stallone!

Seeing as scouts arnt in power armour why does he look just as bulky as the truescale marine next to him?

And why is his head so small compared to his freakishly bulky powerarmourless body?

taking ionto account the act that the fluff im devising for the scouts has them as true-marines rather than neophytes (which explains the slightly bigger chest armour than you'd usually expect, he's spot on size wise.

Now Im not 100% about this as I dont know a great deal fluff wise... but that sounds like hes saying they have all the enhancements of a marine... just not the armor? Which imo makes him just about the right size compared to the marine... I like it!

The best true scale scout conversion I've seen is in this blog:

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/236027.page

Something like that might be your best bet.

Guys - those pics are there to show the general size/scale I'm looking for, not whether or not you think that they look good/correct/awesome/etc.

I'm just wondering if 1/35 scale 'army men' would give me the right parts to start...

Alpharius wrote:Guys - those pics are there to show the general size/scale I'm looking for, not whether or not you think that they look good/correct/awesome/etc.

I'm just wondering if 1/35 scale 'army men' would give me the right parts to start...

Well GW uses 1/28 heroic doesnt it?

Im guessing 1/35 normal should do fine for size

Just looking for confirmation!

I'll give some 1/35 scale models a shot, see what I can see...

Thanks!

*sigh* If you're really set on this course of action, naught I can do to dissuade you...


http://www.squadron.com/ItemDetails.asp?item=CZF35163 These are some pretty nice ones that I've gotten to work with before. Squadron has 583 results, however, for searching with:


1/35 Scale Figures-Military and All Manufacturers as the search criteria.
For some dorky reason, they don't like you linking directly to search results.

Lol that guys head is sooo tiny.

Kanluwen wrote:*sigh* If you're really set on this course of action, naught I can do to dissuade you...


http://www.squadron.com/ItemDetails.asp?item=CZF35163 These are some pretty nice ones that I've gotten to work with before. Squadron has 583 results, however, for searching with:


1/35 Scale Figures-Military and All Manufacturers as the search criteria.
For some dorky reason, they don't like you linking directly to search results.

Thanks for the link!

Much appreciated - and it should help me get some figures in to try out...

What about these by Migsula?

http://s103.photobucket.com/albums/m150/Cpl_Saint/Ultramarines/Speculatores/

Actually, aren't those by "Apologist" or something like that?

He does seem to have a good base to work from...

I'll have to try and track these down.

Thanks!

Well, Space Marine Scouts are about 7 feet tall I heard, and Space Marines are around 9 feet tall, is this correct?

Probably close enough that it doesn't matter if you're a bit off.

I don't think there's a set height listed anywhere, and those numbers sound good to me!

Space marines are only meant to be a head or so above a normal human. There are some mentions in the HH books of people being slightly uncertain if a marine out of power armour could possibly just be a very large human. So I think 7ft for a normal marine, 8 for a primach is about right. But a normal marine 9ft tall? I think some people need to go measure 9 ft against a wall and see just how high that is. They'd be smacking their heads on every ceiling, couldn't do the room by room sweeps mentioned in fluff, and the idea of them all crouching to sit in a rhino may be amusing but possibly impractical.

6'8 to 7 ft. for scouts
7' to 8 ft. for Marines
9 ft.+ for Primarchs

sound about right...

I've been next to a few very tall people, and never mind 9 ft. 7 feet tall is HUGE, especially when you consider the average height of males is what? 5'8"?

I'm 6'1" and next to someone 6'8" to 7' tall? I feel tiny!

The fluff is rather inconsistent when describing marine heights, but I think the above estimates are good.

GW just made the plastic Imperial Guard WAY too big.

corpsesarefun wrote:Well GW uses 1/28 heroic doesnt it?

Im guessing 1/35 normal should do fine for size

No. GW uses 28mm heroic. 28mm scale (named for the height of a six-foot human using that scale, IIRC), is nominally 1/56, but GW's version thereof is incompatible with every scale modelling scale on the market, especially when it comes to human bodies. The proportions are all awry.

Agamemnon2 wrote:

corpsesarefun wrote:Well GW uses 1/28 heroic doesnt it?

Im guessing 1/35 normal should do fine for size

No. GW uses 28mm heroic. 28mm scale (named for the height of a six-foot human using that scale, IIRC), is nominally 1/56, but GW's version thereof is incompatible with every scale modelling scale on the market, especially when it comes to human bodies. The proportions are all awry.

Ahhh! i knew 28 was involved

Agamemnon2 wrote:

corpsesarefun wrote:Well GW uses 1/28 heroic doesnt it?

Im guessing 1/35 normal should do fine for size

No. GW uses 28mm heroic. 28mm scale (named for the height of a six-foot human using that scale, IIRC), is nominally 1/56, but GW's version thereof is incompatible with every scale modelling scale on the market, especially when it comes to human bodies. The proportions are all awry.

You're not kidding!

When you look at just about any other manufacturer's miniatures next to GW's, they took tiny, spindly, weedy...

When of course, it is the GW miniatures that are in fact suffering from mutated features, gigantism and overall ridiculousness!

Which is, of course, probably by design.

In this case, by using AT-43 U.N.A. troopers, I'll be able to get something close (enough!) to Truescale Scouts for my Truescale Marines!

Win!