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Apologies if these have been asked before

1: Could a Carni choose not to use it's crushing claws, for example if it wants to gain I3 from Living Battering Ram

2: What is the point of certain 'Nids having Instinctive Behaviour and Fearless?

And I know this isn't a YMDC question but I didn't want to make a new thread just for this question.

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Valkyrie wrote:P72 of the Codex: Why does the Ravenor look like it has a very large vagina in it's chest? GW's sculptors could have chosen a better design than this.

No-one ever said the 'nids had to have thier's as the same place as human women.

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Valkyrie wrote:1: Could a Carni choose not to use it's crushing claws, for example if it wants to gain I3 from Living Battering Ram
No. If you take the claws, you always strike at I1

2: What is the point of certain 'Nids having Instinctive Behaviour and Fearless?
IB is a Leadership test, not a Morale test. Fearless Nids still have to test for IB.

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The Genatalia in their chest is actually a weapon so instead of taking fire it give it hehe.

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Gwar! wrote:
Valkyrie wrote:1: Could a Carni choose not to use it's crushing claws, for example if it wants to gain I3 from Living Battering Ram
No. If you take the claws, you always strike at I1


That brings me to a 2nd question- Old One Eye. He obviously ALWAYS has Crushing Claws, but still gets the 'Living Battering Ram' rule. I've read your FAQ Gwar, but I honestly don't understand how it's worded. Could you explain exactly what happens?

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My question is was the sculptor blissfully ignorant of what he was making, or did he sit there giggling the whole time he was making it?

Then what about the studio painter? The whole fig is in bone, with just the one offending detail picked out in flesh. I'm almost surprised he didn't paint it pink.

Then of course there's the guy who saw this thing painted up, and just knew he had to feature it as an image in the Codex. Not just part of some group shot, no. It had to have it's own picture, to make sure everyone saw it.

 
   
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Neith wrote:
Gwar! wrote:
Valkyrie wrote:1: Could a Carni choose not to use it's crushing claws, for example if it wants to gain I3 from Living Battering Ram
No. If you take the claws, you always strike at I1


That brings me to a 2nd question- Old One Eye. He obviously ALWAYS has Crushing Claws, but still gets the 'Living Battering Ram' rule. I've read your FAQ Gwar, but I honestly don't understand how it's worded. Could you explain exactly what happens?


He has that rule just because he is a Carnifex. He can't ever use it because of his claws. It's like how Canis Wolfborne has Rending, which he cannot use with his Wolf Claws.
   
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Why can't he? Shrike also has rending, how does that not work with his lightning claws? Against a tank, he gets extra penetration when he rolls a 6. What's wrong with that?

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Because Shrike has a rule stating he does, and Canis doesn't, is the main reason.

The SW FAQ also stated that Rending does not combine with any special CCW the model may have, further reducing Canis...
   
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As I recall, the only time Rending doesn't add to the user's special weapons is when he's getting it from Mark of the Wulfen, which specifically states only with your normal attacks. Does the Rending granted from Thunderwolves have a similar rule? Otherwise they'd add up just fine.

 
   
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The thing that stops it is the fact that Crushing Claws say "regardless of any other modifiers."

Living Battering Ram = a modifier.

Crushing Claws' wording trumps Living Battering Ram.

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Crushing Claws cause a model to strike at initiative 1, but Living Battering Ram can still increase their True initiative, Old One Eye could potentially use his increased initiative from Living Battering Ram for Initiative Tests he is called on to make, although the only relevant one I can think of is Acid Blood (Since Sweeping advance uses the unmodified stat from the profile).

Also regarding Space Wolves and Rending, They ruled that way because the Thunderwolf Mount in the armoury says they only rend when not using a special close combat weapon, however, both Canis Wolfborn and Thunderwolf Cavalry are not "technically" equipped with Thunderwolf Mounts. It shouldn't be taken as a blanket statement for how rending works in close combat, because it's clearly an attempt to replicate the Thunderwolf Mount rules, as is granting Canis Wolfborn the ability to let wolves near him re-roll leadership tests.

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Drunkspleen wrote:Crushing Claws cause a model to strike at initiative 1, but Living Battering Ram can still increase their True initiative, Old One Eye could potentially use his increased initiative from Living Battering Ram for Initiative Tests he is called on to make, although the only relevant one I can think of is Acid Blood (Since Sweeping advance uses the unmodified stat from the profile).
QFT. This is the only way LBR helps OOE.

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Gwar! wrote:IB is a Leadership test, not a Morale test. Fearless Nids still have to test for IB.


I was reading the rule book, something weird came up.

Under the Pinning rule on page 31 stated Pinning test is a normal leadership test. If Fearless automatically pass morale and pinning tests, doesn't that just means leadership test? Or did I miss something?

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There are other Leadership tests than morale and pinning. Fearless does not affect those.

Instinctive Behavior, for example.

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kirsanth wrote:There are other Leadership tests than morale and pinning. Fearless does not affect those.

Instinctive Behavior, for example.


Oh I see, thank you.

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Fishboy wrote:The Genatalia in their chest is actually a weapon so instead of taking fire it give it hehe.


I guess that would be a more effective way of spreading yeast infections....
   
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