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Hi,

I'm new to Warmachine so any advice with Khadir would be very welcome . Me and 2 of my friends bought starter boxes over Christmass. I picked up Khador because I love their huge Jacks with their masses of armour. I want to expand the starter box to 35 point and hopefully do well against Cryx and Cygnar, as those are the armys my friends picked up. I put togther this list:

Kommander Sorscha Kratikoff -5
War Dog 1

Juggernaut 7
Destroyer 9
Kodiak 8

Widowmakers 4
Winter Guard Mortar Crew 3
Man-o-War Kovnik 3

Kell Bailoch 2
Eiryss, Mage Hunter of Ios 3

I thought I could shell/shoot long range then when they start to get close run at them with the CC jacks. Any thoughs?

It should do fine. You'll want to watch out that armies that out number you aren't able to wrap around your smaller numbers and attack from behind.

Thanks for the reply frozenwastes. It's great to hear the I could do ok with this list. But what could turn it from being fine into great? (Although I have a feeling the answer is play Warmachine more and get better at it )

Do you think this is too few units? I was reading about the Iron Fang Pikemen and they seem very cool. I could swap the Kodiak for them and maybe another Mortar Crew? I also feel like I am leaving out the Greylord Ternion, Beast 09, Manhunter... With so many great units I don't know what to go with. I know I like to hit things in CC but that's about it .

Also as an aside if MoW Kovnik is marshaling a 'Jack dose that mean I can't give that 'Jack focuses from my Warcaster?

Normally I would say 2 jacks is enough in this size game, so dropping the kodiak in favour of iron fangs should be fine. If you like hitting why 2 shooting solo's and the widowmakers??

I would at the very least make kell a manhunter, as that is IMHO a better match for the theme...

as a alternative to the iron fangs you could also try a unit of Man'o'War shocks. They have high arm in shieldwall and will be hard to shift. They still hit decently hard to do damage (especially on the charge). You would need a unit of 5 to be effective though...

The only way to make a list go from good to great is to make it your own.

A warcaster can only give a warjack focus when it is part of their battlegroup. So, no, you can't give a marshalled jack focus. However, you may want to take a look at the Koldun Lord solo.

LordRavurion - You’re entirely right. I was reading stuff that said those shooty units were a must have so I just added them. So I've also taken what frozenwastes said and tried to make the list my own, (with both of your advice taken into account ). The reason I wanted to play Warmachine after playing 40K was to have less models and I though the robots looked awesome. So with that in mind:

Butcher of Khardov -6
Juggernaut 7
Destroyer 9

Koldun Lord 2
Kodiak 8

Man-o-War Shocktroopers (5) 9
Greylord Ternion (3) 4
Manhunter 2

I feel very happy with this list as I get to hit and throw things. But any comments from you guys would be very much appreciated. The main thing I'm wondering about is for my 'Jack marshal would MoW Kovnik be a better choice in this list? I guess Koldun is holding back more and MoW Kovnik is getting more involved in the fray. Sound about right?

That would word. The MOW Kovnik uses its Drive or boosts and the Koldun Lord uses
power booster. I haven't actually tried/seen it, but it all works in my head...


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Option 3: Stick them all on the Butcher and reap the benefits of Full Throttle.