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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/01/26 15:34:40
Subject: Capitalism's woes cheered at World Social Forum
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100126/ap_on_re_la_am_ca/lt_brazil_social_forum
Capitalism's woes cheered at World Social Forum
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Delicious Digg Facebook Fark Newsvine Reddit StumbleUpon Technorati Twitter Yahoo! Bookmarks Print AP – Young people sing during the World Social Forum in Porto Alegre, Brazil, Monday, Jan. 25, 2010. People … By ALAN CLENDENNING, Associated Press Writer Alan Clendenning, Associated Press Writer – Tue Jan 26, 1:28 am ET
PORTO ALEGRE, Brazil – Leftists are pouring into town to rail against freewheeling capitalism during the World Social Forum, gleefully cheering the humbling of bankers and business titans by the global economic meltdown.
At the opening of the five-day event, some 25,000 activists paraded exuberantly through Porto Alegre on Monday, serenaded by the pounding of drums and salsa blared from sound trucks as they waved communist flags and shouted slogans against corporate greed.
The 10-year-old conference is the left's counter to the World Economic Forum at Davos, a Swiss ski resort where presidents, corporate leaders and others gather annually to discuss international issues. It is also being held this week.
Gustavo de Biase, a 22-year-old Brazilian wearing a shirt proclaiming "Socialism is Liberty," said the world's leftists are convinced they can get presidents from the U.S. to Brazil to embrace policies "of respect and equality aimed at lifting the poor out of misery."
"We want to distribute the riches to people," he said. "We're fighting for a more equal society and we're saying 'Down with hunger' and 'Down with war.'"
Brazilian President Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva planned to address the social forum's masses Tuesday night in a soccer stadium. Media reports said he would focus on how Brazil has managed to lift millions from poverty as the country embraces an unprecedented boom that has given huge benefits to business and foreign investors.
Some participants said they like Silva's personality and respect him for rising to fame as a union leader even though he never graduated from high school. But they argued he did too much for corporations and banks during his terms in office that end this year.
The World Social Forum draws people with a wide range of causes, from demanding total state control of nations' petroleum reserves to seeking environmental preservation and animal rights.
Activists said this year's forum is especially important because governments from the United States to Europe are moving to take on bigger roles in managing the global economy.
The World Economic Forum that begins Wednesday in Davos is expected to see fewer leaders than in years past. U.S. President Barack Obama's plan to clamp down on the size and activity of banks is sure to be on the minds of many of the rich and powerful heading to Switzerland.
"They have driven the capitalist system into chaos," said Sergio Bernardo, a Brazilian human rights activist sporting a bright red shirt emblazoned with the words "Bourgeoisie Stinks!" "We're letting them know we can create a world free of exploitation that will help the poor."
Lingering fallout from the financial crisis is proof that the world economy must be retooled to benefit people, not big companies, said Francisco Whitaker, a Roman Catholic activist who helped found the World Social Forum.
He said that last year's Davos conference was similar to a "wake" and that the lackluster turnout expected this year "gives the impression that capitalism is on the downfall and hitting its limits."
Leftists are increasingly energized by the prospect of persuading governments to tackle corporate excess and spread more wealth to the needy, he said.
"We're in the midst of true enthusiasm," Whitaker said. "We may not change the world completely and all at once, but the change now can come from the bottom and spread. It's surging and getting toward a critical mass."
The World Social Forum serves as a platform for leftists to exchange ideas, though no proposals are formed following days of debate. Instead, participants are expected to take strategies back to their home countries and push for change locally.
While the economic crisis provided a perfect platform for advancing leftist movements, many failed to grasp the opportunity when the slump was at its worst, said Nandita Shah, co-director of India's Akshara Centre, which supports women's rights.
"I think there's a crisis in the left and in our voice," she said. "I hope these five days will bring us out of this visionless tunnel."
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/01/26 19:39:39
Subject: Capitalism's woes cheered at World Social Forum
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Frazzled wrote:http://news.yahoo.com/s/ ap/20100126/ap_on_re_la_am_ca/lt_brazil_social_forum
Capitalism's woes cheered at World Social Forum
PORTO ALEGRE, Brazil –
Gustavo de Biase, a 22-year-old Brazilian wearing a shirt proclaiming "Socialism is Liberty," said the world's leftists are convinced they can get presidents from the U.S. to Brazil to embrace policies "of respect and equality aimed at lifting the poor out of misery."
"We want to distribute the riches to people," he said. "We're fighting for a more equal society and we're saying 'Down with hunger' and 'Down with war.'"
While the economic crisis provided a perfect platform for advancing leftist movements, many failed to grasp the opportunity when the slump was at its worst, said Nandita Shah, co-director of India's Akshara Centre, which supports women's rights.
"I think there's a crisis in the left and in our voice," she said. "I hope these five days will bring us out of this visionless tunnel."
So a movement made up of poor 20 something communists lacks vision and direction. I honestly don't know how many of these kind of shocks my heart can take.
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mattyrm wrote: I will bro fist a toilet cleaner.
I will chainfist a pretentious English literature student who wears a beret.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/01/27 04:48:24
Subject: Re:Capitalism's woes cheered at World Social Forum
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The Dread Evil Lord Varlak
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The last 10 or so years have been dominated by the stupid end of the rightwing, so it's good to remember that the leftwing has its stupid end as well. While the World Social Forum does attract decent commentators, a lot of the people who make up its numbers are your basic left wing whackos.
The article did a pretty crappy thing, though, in trying to make the World Social Forum representative of the left wing as a whole. Even the decent attendees would be considered on the fringe of left wing politics. And that relied on an assumption that the World Economic Forum is somehow a rightwing institution, which is just plain goofy. It's a non-aligned body that draws membership from all over the political spectrum.
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“We may observe that the government in a civilized country is much more expensive than in a barbarous one; and when we say that one government is more expensive than another, it is the same as if we said that that one country is farther advanced in improvement than another. To say that the government is expensive and the people not oppressed is to say that the people are rich.”
Adam Smith, who must have been some kind of leftie or something. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/01/27 05:32:48
Subject: Re:Capitalism's woes cheered at World Social Forum
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Nasty Nob on Warbike with Klaw
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They've still got time to get their act together, though. We're not out of the mess that our corporate overlords have created yet, and most likely won't be for quite awhile.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/01/27 07:58:46
Subject: Capitalism's woes cheered at World Social Forum
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Da Head Honcho Boss Grot
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I hate socialists.
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Anuvver fing - when they do sumfing, they try to make it look like somfink else to confuse everybody. When one of them wants to lord it over the uvvers, 'e says "I'm very speshul so'z you gotta worship me", or "I know summink wot you lot don't know, so yer better lissen good". Da funny fing is, arf of 'em believe it and da over arf don't, so 'e 'as to hit 'em all anyway or run fer it. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/01/27 08:17:08
Subject: Capitalism's woes cheered at World Social Forum
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Hangin' with Gork & Mork
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Orkeosaurus wrote:I hate socialists.
But do you hate them all equally?
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Amidst the mists and coldest frosts he thrusts his fists against the posts and still insists he sees the ghosts.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/01/27 08:20:47
Subject: Capitalism's woes cheered at World Social Forum
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The Dread Evil Lord Varlak
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Ahtman wrote:Orkeosaurus wrote:I hate socialists.
But do you hate them all equally?
From each according to their rage, to each according to their self righteous t-shirt slogans.
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“We may observe that the government in a civilized country is much more expensive than in a barbarous one; and when we say that one government is more expensive than another, it is the same as if we said that that one country is farther advanced in improvement than another. To say that the government is expensive and the people not oppressed is to say that the people are rich.”
Adam Smith, who must have been some kind of leftie or something. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/01/27 12:13:30
Subject: Capitalism's woes cheered at World Social Forum
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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sebster wrote:Ahtman wrote:Orkeosaurus wrote:I hate socialists.
But do you hate them all equally?
From each according to their rage, to each according to their self righteous t-shirt slogans.
That is quality, sir. Well played.
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