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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/01/27 19:49:46
Subject: 1250pt tourney Orks
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Regular Dakkanaut
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So running a 1250pt tourney at my gaming store and I am going to run an odd ball Orks list. I want to have Ghazzy come in w/ Snikrot and his kommandos (which will be allowed). Here's my list...
HQ
Ghazzy
TROOP
5 Nobz + Painboy
-pk, bosspole, armor, cybork
-pk, armor, cybork
-big choppa, bosspole, armor, cybork
-big choppa, armor, cybork
-waagh banner, armor, cybork
Painboy
-armor
Battlewagon
-1 big shoota, deffrolla, boarding plank
19 Ard Boyz + Nob
pk, bosspole
12 Shoota boyz
-1 big shoota
Trukk
ELITE
5 Kommandos + Snikrot
HEAVY
Battlewagon
1 big shoota, deffrolla, boarding plank
Tactics:
Ghazzy and Kommandos come in on any board edge, seperate to attack 2 different targets (call the waaagh!).
Trukk in reserve to hold rear objective.
Nobz and Ard Boyz zoom up the board w/ their deffrollin' wagons clearing the way!
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2010/01/27 19:52:47
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/01/28 01:58:23
Subject: 1250pt tourney Orks
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Waaagh! Warbiker
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Just to let you know, Baby Jesus cried when he read your list. The only time I think it would be appropriate to field less than 40 models in an ork list of any kind is if you:
a) get robbed on the way to the game, and have only a few models that the thief didn't take from you, or
b) you are playing a 500 point game against someone who just bought AoBR.
I would pose a few questions to you about this list:
- What do you actually expect to accomplish with Snikrot? A 5 boy squad, likely as not, won't even be alive to hit your opponent as that initiative 3 assault is going to go last in just about every match you play. While Snikrot may strike, do you expect him to single handedly put down a squad?
- Why would 1/4 of your already extremely limited troops be placed in reserve to claim objectives?
- While orks are great for 6 point models, they aren't great 1 on 1 against models that run 18 points. What is your strategy for dealing with more units. A space marine player, for instance, could have fully one and a half times as many models as you do, and while you may kill a few when you assault, he will outright decimate you when he shoots at your exposed ~30 boyz once you are out of your vehicles.
Take it for what it is. I would suggest looking around at some of the other lists floating around on the board to find a list that has higher resilience and more options.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/01/28 20:03:24
Subject: 1250pt tourney Orks
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Regular Dakkanaut
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First I have about 3500 points of Orks to build any type of army I want from mech, speed, or tide. I'm tired of playing the same strategy all the time so I want to mix it up a bit.
Snikrot gets Ghazzy on any board edge...Snikrot will pop any tank other than a land raider. His squad isn't there to take on squads of guys...It's to drop Ghazzy off and hit a tank on the turn they come in. The unit is cheap so to pop one will earn his points back, then who cares if they die!
Nobz and Ard boyz will be dealing with squads, and rather easily at that. All my troops are in vehicles (2 battlewagons), so have fun taking them out.
The trukk has 22 24" range shots and 2 big shootas (counting the trukk). It stays back and uses it's range against whatever needs finishing off and of course claims objectives.
Ghazzy decimates any hard hitters, heavy tanks, or monstrous creatures.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/01/28 20:40:34
Subject: 1250pt tourney Orks
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Waaagh! Warbiker
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OK, so you are looking to field something different. So be it. Just be aware that you are fielding an extremely limited number of total bodies, even at this point count, and that you are going to run out of options quickly if you begin to take even a few casualties.
That, and you will have a lot of difficulty pulling off Thraka + Snikrot outflanking. Most game stores, tournaments, and leagues won't allow it. The INAT FAQ posted on the news & rumors forum, for instance, states:
ORK.62C.01 – Q: Can an Independent Character (such as a Warboss on a bike) join Snikrot‟s unit before the game and arrive with them via Ambush?
A: No, as Snikrot's ability is a special rule that does not specify it affects other ICs joined to his unit, it does not [clarification].
Ref: RB.95A.01, SM.92.01
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/01/28 21:11:19
Subject: 1250pt tourney Orks
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Growlin' Guntrukk Driver with Killacannon
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Carnuss wrote: That, and you will have a lot of difficulty pulling off Thraka + Snikrot outflanking. Most game stores, tournaments, and leagues won't allow it. The INAT FAQ posted on the news & rumors forum, for instance, states: ORK.62C.01 – Q: Can an Independent Character (such as a Warboss on a bike) join Snikrot‟s unit before the game and arrive with them via Ambush? A: No, as Snikrot's ability is a special rule that does not specify it affects other ICs joined to his unit, it does not [clarification]. Ref: RB.95A.01, SM.92.01
Must be why he specifically said it was allowed. And INAT ruling against RAW doesn't change RAW. Nitpick #2: flyinmiata1 wrote: The trukk has 22 24" range shots and 2 big shootas (counting the trukk). It stays back and uses it's range against whatever needs finishing off and of course claims objectives.
Shootas aren't 24" range.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2010/01/28 21:28:53
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/01/28 21:26:55
Subject: 1250pt tourney Orks
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Waaagh! Warbiker
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Just know that INAT loves you even when you talk bad about her like that.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/01/28 22:46:48
Subject: 1250pt tourney Orks
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Mekboy Hammerin' Somethin'
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Flyinmiata1 wrote:Ghazzy and Kommandos come in on any board edge, seperate to attack 2 different targets (call the waaagh!).
I am sorry but using Ghaz with Snikrot is just bad sportsmanship UNLESS you talk to your opponent about what you intend to do and he's okay with it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/01/28 22:58:44
Subject: 1250pt tourney Orks
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Stinky Spore
Rockwall, TX
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My only thing is the ard boys you are spending 76 points on something you know is going to die.. Let the BW defend them to the target and then WAARGH from there..
If you are holding them in reserve.. Drop the shoot aboys and take the extra points from the hard boys and fill that BW with Lootas.. Take off the roller and boarding plank. add extra armor and ???
That way you have your own little pill box the first couple of turns. Sure you might have limited targets of opportunity the first few rounds...
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