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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/01/28 03:27:37
Subject: 2k Tyrannids for a GT, Help me Choose!
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Archmagos Veneratus Extremis
Home Base: Prosper, TX (Dallas)
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Alright so these lists are for an Indy GT coming up in two weeks. It's a "comp" friendly event (i.e. hardcore armies are discouraged and it's heavy in soft scores). Also it has already been judged that the mawloc attack does not allow cover saves.
Rules for the scenarios are here: http://www.broadsidebash.com/rules.php
They are almost entirely objective based and require movement to get to the objectives
So on to the lists:
List 1
HQ
Tyrant-225
Old Adversary, 2xTL Devourers
Elite
3 Hive Guard-150
3 Hive Guard-150
Troop
Tervigon-195
Adrenal Glands, Toxin Sac, Catalyst
Tervigon-195
Adrenal Glands, Toxin Sac, Catalyst
14 Spine Gaunts-84
14 Spine Gaunts-84
17 Devourer Gaunts-170
Heavy Support
Mawloc-170
Mawloc-170
2 Carnifex-400
Crushing Claws, TL Devourers
Total:1993
List 2
HQ
Parasite-160
Elite
3 Hive Guard-150
3 Hive Guard-150
Troop
Tervigon-195
Adrenal Glands, Toxin Sac, Catalyst
Tervigon-195
Adrenal Glands, Toxin Sac, Catalyst
20 Spine Gaunts-120
20 Hormagaunts-160
14 Devourer Gaunts-140
Fast Attack
10 Gargoyles-70
Toxin Sacs
Heavy Support
Mawloc-170
Mawloc-170
2 Carnifex-320
2 Twin Scything Talons
Total:2000
List 3
HQ
Warrior Prime-90
2 Boneswords
Elite
3 Hive Guard-150
3 Hive Guard-150
Troop
Tervigon-195
Adrenal Glands, Toxin Sac, Catalyst
Tervigon-195
Adrenal Glands, Toxin Sac, Catalyst
20 Spine Gaunts-120
20 Hormagaunts-160
20 Devourer Gaunts-200
Fast Attack
10 Gargoyles-80
Toxin Sacs, Adrenal Glands
Heavy Support
Mawloc-170
Mawloc-170
2 Carnifex-320
2 Twin Scything Talons
Total:2000
So thoughts and opinions? Please Vote!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/01/28 05:53:56
Subject: 2k Tyrannids for a GT, Help me Choose!
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Long-Range Black Templar Land Speeder Pilot
Beijing,China
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No zoans, no rupture cannons, even no heavy venom cannons...what would you take to stop tanks?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/01/28 08:22:43
Subject: 2k Tyrannids for a GT, Help me Choose!
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Strider
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I'd say to drop the 20 Dev Gaunts for 3 zoanthropes, but other than that I can't see anything wrong with the list.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/01/28 21:26:01
Subject: 2k Tyrannids for a GT, Help me Choose!
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Archmagos Veneratus Extremis
Home Base: Prosper, TX (Dallas)
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I realize the lists lacks LR stoppage power but to be honest running up and smacking them has worked so far. Plus the scenarios arre so heavily objective based that multiple LR armies are going to have trouble.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/01/28 21:38:48
Subject: 2k Tyrannids for a GT, Help me Choose!
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Regular Dakkanaut
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not really, as theyll just park a land raider on top of objectives and leave you unable to contest without destroying it.
You need zoanthropes in pods =/ if there was a option d. needs more zoanthropes id vote
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/01/28 21:50:11
Subject: 2k Tyrannids for a GT, Help me Choose!
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Archmagos Veneratus Extremis
Home Base: Prosper, TX (Dallas)
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If they are parked they're not moving and my carnies make them food  And i don't relie on it but i do have 4 other MC's that can pen 1/3 of the time too. Automatically Appended Next Post: If they are parked they're not moving and my carnies make them food  And i don't relie on it but i do have 4 other MC's that can pen 1/3 of the time too.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/01/28 23:58:12
Subject: 2k Tyrannids for a GT, Help me Choose!
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Regular Dakkanaut
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who said theyr enot moving? theyre moving .00000000000000001 inches so your carnifexes need 4s to hit them ... lol youll need 4 to bust 1 land raider that parks on an objective on the last turn lol ...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/01/29 01:13:55
Subject: 2k Tyrannids for a GT, Help me Choose!
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Boosting Space Marine Biker
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I voted for option 1. Old Adversary + Toxic Gaunts = lots of wounding.
If you are going to only take 6 Hive Guard, maybe work in a Venomthrope. Nice toys for the Gaunts too.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/01/29 03:06:55
Subject: Re:2k Tyrannids for a GT, Help me Choose!
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Jovial Plaguebearer of Nurgle
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I wont pick none of them.....you left out anti-tank support. i do agree with the Tervigon, at least two of them. I would leave out the carnifex and add either a Trygon prime and a regular Trygon. Plus you should add the Doom of Malan'tai, great against anti-hordes in the either in the open or a in vehicle. Plus there might be psychers out there, if you want to screw with their leadership add a Deathleaper. please add at least two unit of Zoanthorpe with a spore.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/01/29 04:49:18
Subject: 2k Tyrannids for a GT, Help me Choose!
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Tunneling Trygon
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I picked parasite, mostly because if there is a tournament he would be viable in it would be this one (gotta love no KPs with tervigons and free rippers galore). Do you have enough rippers though?
If not then I'd go with Hive Tyrant instead. I'd also consider a different weapon config with your tyrant if you can. With all his powers being shooty, I am not as partial to the dual shooty build as days of yore. Also I am leaning away from devourers on any unit I'd like in CC, because of the higher chance of them breaking.
Also I know you played tyranids alot with the old dex, so I won't begrudge you 'keeping it real' and dealing with LRs like nids have always done previously.
Hope that helps and good luck.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/01/29 06:40:58
Subject: Re:2k Tyrannids for a GT, Help me Choose!
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Getting my broom incase there is shenanigans.
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I would go with #2.
All your lists are somewhat the same.
God I hate Mawlocs, they are going to be a pain to kill. Talk about undercosted...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/01/29 16:21:44
Subject: 2k Tyrannids for a GT, Help me Choose!
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Been Around the Block
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mon-keigh slayer wrote:who said theyr enot moving? theyre moving .00000000000000001 inches so your carnifexes need 4s to hit them ... lol youll need 4 to bust 1 land raider that parks on an objective on the last turn lol ...
With 5 attacks on the charge, rerolling misses? The Carnifex is landing almost 4 hits on a Land Raider that moved up to 6", and 1.5 hits on one that moved up to 12". If the Carnifex can get to the land raider, it can certainly do some damage - now, that doesn't compare to ranged anti-tank that can remove the Land Raider early, but I'd definitely caution against assuming a land raider is safe from a Carnifex just because it moved.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/01/30 03:56:24
Subject: Re:2k Tyrannids for a GT, Help me Choose!
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Reliable Krootox
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It seems to me that all of these lists are really lacking synapse creatures and this will probably bite you in the butt.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/01/30 04:35:33
Subject: 2k Tyrannids for a GT, Help me Choose!
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Executing Exarch
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I agree that you need more anti-tank.
Also normal Fexs suck a big one.... lets just say you do manage to kill one LR with the fexs (turn 3 is the best you can hope for if you get good runs), now what? you march the brood across the board to try to get the other one in 2 turns, without getting tarpited or killed by the terms inside the first LR.
If nothing else get a tyranofex instead, str 10 shots on turn 1-2, Templates on turn 3-4, and supper melee on turn 4+. Couple that with t6 w6 As2+ and you have a solid hvy choice.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/01/30 07:57:57
Subject: Re:2k Tyrannids for a GT, Help me Choose!
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Battlefield Professional
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I kinda like list 2... Solid shooting, movement versatility...
Why spinegaunts though? you'd save enough points for another couple devourer gaunts by just taking standard fleshborers, with no appreciable difference in effectiveness. (20 std. gaunts hit 10 marines, wound 5 on a 4+, kill maybe 2... 20 spinegaunts hit ~15 marines, wound about 5 on a 5+, kill maybe 2).
My money's on Trygons. lose a Mawloc and the fexes for 2x Trygon prime. Good gun, fights like a champ, Synapse, Shadow, shows up next to objectives, hard to kill, and doesn't have to roll a hit to be effective. I just feel like multiple Mawlocs is just begging for that game where they can't land on target to save their lives, and if Terror from the Deep never goes off with any appreciable value, they don't have a lot of redeeming qualities.
I'm interested to hear how it goes though, put me down for an after-action report!
-Dis.
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