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2010/01/28 09:01:32
Subject: 40k Books that Suck: Nightbringer (Graham McNeill), a review
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Last Remaining Whole C'Tan
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So, I finally forced myself to trudge through this horrid little paperback. I got it for 2 cents + $3.99 shipping used at Amazon, and I think I overpaid.
First off, from the title, you'd think it was about Necrons, right? I mean, it's titled "Nightbringer". Sure, it's got an Ultra Smurf on the cover, but I hardly think they'll ever release a book written from a Necron POV. Which would be awesome, but brief. I mean, have you ever seen the Necron OS source code? It's only 6 lines:
10 wake up
20 perform.check(anything alive?) If YES goto 50
30 sleep 365
40 goto 20
50 perform.kill(*) + call(monolith);
60 goto 10
But I digress. As it turns out, the book is entirely about the Ultramarines, who do not, in fact, fight the Necrons. They actually mostly fight the Dark Eldar, who are my absolute least favorite faction. The Nightbringer is actually some sort of flagship for the Nightbringer, and has a power source that does... something. The Dark Eldar want it, the Ultramarines don't want them to get it. At no point does anyone ask why the Nightbringer's flagship is also called the Nightbringer, which is a might gauche if you ask me. There are some scarabs at one brief point, who apparently eat some workers. That's it for the actual Necron appearance.
Get this book if: You thought the film "Executive Decision" was accurate in depicting Steven Seagal prominently on the poster, you like Dark Eldar
Don't get this book if: You think it's about Necrons, or enjoy a book that has a climax and a good story
My bottom line: Non-Stop poo factory
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lord_blackfang wrote:Respect to the guy who subscribed just to post a massive ASCII dong in the chat and immediately get banned.
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2010/01/28 12:44:19
Subject: 40k Books that Suck: Nightbringer (Graham McNeill), a review
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Ork Boy Hangin' off a Trukk
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Ouze wrote:
10 wake up
20 perform.check(anything alive?) If YES goto 50
30 sleep 365
40 goto 20
50 perform.kill(*) + call(monolith);
60 goto 10
That really cracks me up! *Snort* On topic: I just read through all the volumes (400-or-so pages) of "Horus Heresy: The Collected Visions" and two things struck me:
1. A lot of text is simply double-posted. A lot of little cards and boxes and whatnot litter the pages and contain the same text you'll read in the following page. Lazy!
2. The artists are mostly non- GW regulars, and 90 percent of their work is really mediocre. As a comic book lover, I hate the fact that it's suddenly OK for illustrators to simply dish out a pencil rough and just drown it in photoshop sauce. I mean, I can actually tell what filters they've used. And the proportions are off. And, and... /sob/
GIVE ME MORE KOPINSKI, DAINTON & BOYD, NOT THIS DEVIANT ART TRASH!!!
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2010/01/28 13:00:21
Subject: 40k Books that Suck: Nightbringer (Graham McNeill), a review
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Killer Klaivex
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I've never minded McNeills writing. He's a good solid author, even if he is a tad uninspiring. He sticks to the same old plot devices, and you can tell his books are just hacked out one after the other in a long chain with no particular inspiration or genius, but they're good fun reads when you've got nothing better to do, and they help expand the fluff.
And he isn't C.S. Goto.
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2010/01/28 13:17:25
Subject: 40k Books that Suck: Nightbringer (Graham McNeill), a review
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Mutilatin' Mad Dok
SE Michigan
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Ouze wrote:So, I finally forced myself to trudge through this horrid little paperback. I got it for 2 cents + $3.99 shipping used at Amazon, and I think I overpaid.
First off, from the title, you'd think it was about Necrons, right? I mean, it's titled "Nightbringer". Sure, it's got an Ultra Smurf on the cover, but I hardly think they'll ever release a book written from a Necron POV. Which would be awesome, but brief. I mean, have you ever seen the Necron OS source code? It's only 6 lines:
10 wake up
20 perform.check(anything alive?) If YES goto 50
30 sleep 365
40 goto 20
50 perform.kill(*) + call(monolith);
60 goto 10
But I digress. As it turns out, the book is entirely about the Ultramarines, who do not, in fact, fight the Necrons. They actually mostly fight the Dark Eldar, who are my absolute least favorite faction. The Nightbringer is actually some sort of flagship for the Nightbringer, and has a power source that does... something. The Dark Eldar want it, the Ultramarines don't want them to get it. At no point does anyone ask why the Nightbringer's flagship is also called the Nightbringer, which is a might gauche if you ask me. There are some scarabs at one brief point, who apparently eat some workers. That's it for the actual Necron appearance.
Get this book if: You thought the film "Executive Decision" was accurate in depicting Steven Seagal prominently on the poster, you like Dark Eldar
Don't get this book if: You think it's about Necrons, or enjoy a book that has a climax and a good story
My bottom line: Non-Stop poo factory
you are wrong about necrons in the book. . . .plus you could be reading c.s. goto, well I enjoyed it
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2010/01/28 13:31:12
Subject: 40k Books that Suck: Nightbringer (Graham McNeill), a review
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Screaming Banshee
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Ouze wrote:So, I finally forced myself to trudge through this horrid little paperback. I got it for 2 cents + $3.99 shipping used at Amazon, and I think I overpaid.
First off, from the title, you'd think it was about Necrons, right? I mean, it's titled "Nightbringer". Sure, it's got an Ultra Smurf on the cover, but I hardly think they'll ever release a book written from a Necron POV. Which would be awesome, but brief. I mean, have you ever seen the Necron OS source code? It's only 6 lines:
10 wake up
20 perform.check(anything alive?) If YES goto 50
30 sleep 365
40 goto 20
50 perform.kill(*) + call(monolith);
60 goto 10
But I digress. As it turns out, the book is entirely about the Ultramarines, who do not, in fact, fight the Necrons. They actually mostly fight the Dark Eldar, who are my absolute least favorite faction. The Nightbringer is actually some sort of flagship for the Nightbringer, and has a power source that does... something. The Dark Eldar want it, the Ultramarines don't want them to get it. At no point does anyone ask why the Nightbringer's flagship is also called the Nightbringer, which is a might gauche if you ask me. There are some scarabs at one brief point, who apparently eat some workers. That's it for the actual Necron appearance.
Get this book if: You thought the film "Executive Decision" was accurate in depicting Steven Seagal prominently on the poster, you like Dark Eldar
Don't get this book if: You think it's about Necrons, or enjoy a book that has a climax and a good story
My bottom line: Non-Stop poo factory
I actually liked the book, though I will admit I read it a long time ago. And you're wrong about the Necrons... if you bothered to read it properly you might have noticed that:
The ship is not called the Nightbringer either... Bringer of Darkness is another way of saying it I guess
Finally:
Really I think you just don't like Dark Eldar?
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2010/01/28 13:48:44
Subject: Re:40k Books that Suck: Nightbringer (Graham McNeill), a review
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Sinewy Scourge
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*reads last spoiler of the above post*
*thinks she needs to get this book*
*displays depravity in that she doesn't think the obvious horizontal tango, but thinks there is some interesting torture going on and wants to know what it is*
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2010/01/28 13:52:29
Subject: Re:40k Books that Suck: Nightbringer (Graham McNeill), a review
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Last Remaining Whole C'Tan
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I guess I was disappointed that, from the title, I expected they would be fighting Necrons. Instead, they
and there were some and that was it.
Also, I don't remember any I have to admit, I usually write these things right after I read them, but I actually finish the book about a week ago. Usually I devour this sort of thing in a night or two, but this took me many sessions.
Knowing this was the first encounter with the Nightbringer does indeed explain some things, but I had thought they'd, you know, fight him.
About the only thing I really did about this book was that it eventually led to this post, and I enjoyed I'm probably going to
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lord_blackfang wrote:Respect to the guy who subscribed just to post a massive ASCII dong in the chat and immediately get banned.
Flinty wrote:The benefit of slate is that its.actually a.rock with rock like properties. The downside is that it's a rock |
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2010/01/28 15:04:17
Subject: Re:40k Books that Suck: Nightbringer (Graham McNeill), a review
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Screaming Banshee
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The only thing I found ridiculous about that scene was that
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2010/01/29 16:55:34
Subject: 40k Books that Suck: Nightbringer (Graham McNeill), a review
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Last Remaining Whole C'Tan
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Ketara wrote:I've never minded McNeills writing. He's a good solid author, even if he is a tad uninspiring. He sticks to the same old plot devices, and you can tell his books are just hacked out one after the other in a long chain with no particular inspiration or genius, but they're good fun reads when you've got nothing better to do, and they help expand the fluff.
I guess that's how I feel about R.A. Salvatore. I read all the Drizzt books up until the Lone Drow, the whole time knowing that the author was a total hack but generally enjoying them anyway. The only ones I've ever re-read are the original DE trilogy, though.
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lord_blackfang wrote:Respect to the guy who subscribed just to post a massive ASCII dong in the chat and immediately get banned.
Flinty wrote:The benefit of slate is that its.actually a.rock with rock like properties. The downside is that it's a rock |
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2010/01/29 17:02:35
Subject: Re:40k Books that Suck: Nightbringer (Graham McNeill), a review
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Madrak Ironhide
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Ouze wrote:I'm probably going to
I hope you mean
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