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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/01/28 18:20:03
Subject: [Q] +CR for wounding/killing multiwound models outside challenge?
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Hey, I'm in a bit of a pickle - I haven't managed to find any instance of this in the BRB yet I saw some players playing that way :
when you get a single wound on a char with 2+ wounds, you get +1 CR in this combat,
if you kill i.e. a 6-wound dragon, you get +6 CR,
etc.
I don't think those are the rules as stated in the rulebook and in our games we always give +1 CR (for every unit killed, even if multiwound) and additional CR for overkill wounds in challenges as stated in the rulebook.
So are we playing wrong or are the other guys just plain silly?
Thanks in adv. : )
E.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/01/28 18:55:59
Subject: [Q] +CR for wounding/killing multiwound models outside challenge?
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Excellent Exalted Champion of Chaos
Lake Forest, California, South Orange County
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As I understand CR is based off of successful wounds caused, not by models removed.
So for killing a dragon with a full unit you would get
+1 for standard +1 outnumber(presumably) +3 ranks
and +6 wounds.
May God save the poor bastard whose dragon just died beneath him at a CR of +11.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/01/28 19:09:53
Subject: [Q] +CR for wounding/killing multiwound models outside challenge?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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You get +1 CR for every wound caused outside of a challenge, so killing a 3 wound ogre would give you +3CR.
Outside of a challenge you cannot gain more CR from a mdel than the number of wounds it has. In a challenge you can gain up to +5CR beyond the number of wounds they have left.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/01/28 19:13:32
Subject: Re:[Q] +CR for wounding/killing multiwound models outside challenge?
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Oh , thanks a lot for both the replies.
That has been bothering the hell out of me
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/01/28 19:29:57
Subject: [Q] +CR for wounding/killing multiwound models outside challenge?
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Tilter at Windmills
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Nosferatu wrote exactly what I was going to write.
The rulebook is quite clear on this.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/01/28 19:55:04
Subject: [Q] +CR for wounding/killing multiwound models outside challenge?
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Gnawing Giant Rat
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Remember, +1 combat resolution for every unsaved wound caused in combat. Wounds negated by armor, ward or regen saves do nt give you a +1.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/01/28 21:31:05
Subject: [Q] +CR for wounding/killing multiwound models outside challenge?
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Dangerous Skeleton Champion
Canada
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How much CR do you get if you do killing blow as the first and only wound (for example, if they have 2 wounds on their profile but they die because its killing blow)?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/01/28 21:47:00
Subject: [Q] +CR for wounding/killing multiwound models outside challenge?
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[DCM]
Tilter at Windmills
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Killing blow acts like any other wound multiplier. You get as much CR as your opponent lost wounds (after saves and everything, as JJBCollect noted). So if a two wound character loses both wounds to a KB, that's 2pts of CR.
Of course, in a challenge, remember that you can score overkill- if you managed two KBs on that hero in a challenge with him, it'd be worth +4CR
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/01/28 23:56:03
Subject: [Q] +CR for wounding/killing multiwound models outside challenge?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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And if you want a rulebook source for this (as the rulebook actualy only calls KB "a wound", so there was some argument) then the BRB FAQ part 2 confirms that a Killing Blow gains as much Combat Resolution as the remaining wounds on the model.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/02/04 15:36:00
Subject: [Q] +CR for wounding/killing multiwound models outside challenge?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Mannahnin wrote:
Of course, in a challenge, remember that you can score overkill- if you managed two KBs on that hero in a challenge with him, it'd be worth +4CR
I'm not sure if this is correct. From my understanding of the FAQ you get +2 CR for the first killing blow and then +1CR for each one after that. This is because after the first one each wound roll even killing blow is only worth 1 wound.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/02/04 19:11:32
Subject: [Q] +CR for wounding/killing multiwound models outside challenge?
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Excellent Exalted Champion of Chaos
Lake Forest, California, South Orange County
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I understand the FAQ to be as you mentioned Negativemoney.
Once the first KB hits, you gain +xCR where X is the number of wounds the model has, then all other wounds count as overkill and subsequent KB's would only be a single wound as the model is already dead.
So against a hero, you cause 4 wounds, 2 KB's and 2 regulars. The first KB causes 2 wounds and thus kills the model, and then the last KB and 2 regular wounds cause 3 overkill, giving you a total of +5CR.
I'm not 100% but I'm sure you can't Killing Blow a model twice, and am sure an FAQ would support the realism of that as so many FAQ's do in these types of cases.
The model dies, and then you hack it's body to shreds but don't actually kill it more.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/02/05 02:55:28
Subject: [Q] +CR for wounding/killing multiwound models outside challenge?
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[DCM]
Tzeentch's Fan Girl
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The FAQ part 2 rather clearly states that each Killing Blow is worth the model's remaining wounds. They even give a clear example: If a character with two wounds remaining suffers two Killing Blows and a 'standard' wound, the total CR is +5.
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