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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8488395.stm

Isn't it about time we actually got real scientists involved rather than government officials and hack "scientists" who have no agenda other than lining their own pockets?

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Real scientists? You actually believe that scientists are somehow immune to human impulses? That's nice.

Also, the 'error' presented is not an error, but a lack of rigor. It certainly allows the report to be questioned, as any incorrect prediction would, but it isn't an error.

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The article makes it clear that it is poor referencing rather than bad science. Instead of referencing the basic science papers, they referenced a more biased paper written by a WWF associate and environmental journalist that references those or similar papers.

This is simply a case of people attacking the science by the rather shady route of attacking some dodgy referencing. The attack on the poor referencing as an excuse to deny the fundamentally sound arguments being made is a worse crime than the poor referencing itself.

Now, maybe the opinions being given are wrong, but they are fundamentally sound science - liable to peer review in the appropriate way - by looking at the scientific claims rather than by attacking someone who did bad referencing.

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Problems for IPCC currently:

The head of the IPCC is a train engineer who runs a research organisation (TERI) that rakes in tens of millions per year in 'climate change' research grants.
The head of the IPCC was told (by journalists) of the mistakes with the Himylayan glacier predictions (to be gone by 2035) in November last year. On numerous occasions he said he hadn't been told until a couple of weeks ago.
The head of the IPCC released an 'erotic book' last week based around the adventures of a young climate scientist (erotic tales ensue page 13 apparently).
The head of the IPCC racked up over 140,000 miles in flights in 2008-2009 financial year, once he flew to India from London for 11 hours to watch the Indian cricket team practice the day before a match, then flew back to London. Yet he wants us to get around on pushbikes.
The WWF is a source for several diiferent areas including the Brazillian rainforest depletion = change in rainfall. Now no scientists will back this up.
Greenpeace is the primary source on several occasions.
13 of 2500 (interviewed so far) of the 4000 scientists who contributed to the IPCC report are willing to say that yes man is the culprit.
The IPCC was set up by the UN with the express mandate to push for a political change towards the environment.
The data sets that were used by the IPCC have been showed to be bogus, ala the CRU controversy. So far the North Australian, Scandinavian and Siberian temperature datasets have been shown to be outright wrong when comparing the raw data to the 'adjusted data' used.
The idiots held a global warming summit in northern Europe in Winter just before the coldest winter in a generation hit.... should have had it in central Australia where it would have been reliably hot.


I'm glad the rorting is finally exposed and my tax dollar is no longer going to be used to fund this lunacy.

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The head of the IPCC released an 'erotic book' last week based around the adventures of a young climate scientist (erotic tales ensue page 13 apparently).

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I certainly agree...

It is getting awfully hot in here.

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Also from WUWT and the Telegraph Newspaper- "The United Nations’ expert panel on climate change based claims about ice disappearing from the world’s mountain tops on a student’s dissertation and an article in a mountaineering magazine."

This issue:


We're through the looking glass people... and it doesn't look good.

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