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Hello everybody. I am quite new to 40k. I don't quite understand ALL the rules yet, but I do know the basics. I am starting a Space Wolves army, and I had a question about my Wolf Guard. My Wolf Guard in terminator armour get 2+ armour save (correct me if I'm wrong), but the thing I am confused on is the benefit of the storm shield upgrade. It said in the that a model with a storm shield equipped has an invulnerable save of 3+. In the rule book I read that you roll on invulnerable saves to save wounds, but isn't that what armour saves are for? I know there is a simple distinction between the two, but I just quite can't understand it. Can somebody please tell me the difference between the two and the benefits of adding storm shields to my Wolf Guard?

Regular armour saves are negated by a weapon's AP... so your terminator, when hit by an AP2 weapon, doesn't get an armour save.

He would normally get the 5+ invulnerable save that also comes built into the terminator armour, as invulnerable saves can be taken regardless of AP.

The storm shield simply gives him a better invulnerable save.

Ah.. So if my terminator gets hit with a weapon with AP2, the 2+ armour save wouldn't apply, and he would automatically take a wound. If he was equipped with a storm shield, he will get the 3+ invulnerable save, regardless of the AP of a weapon?

Theres certain weapons in the game that ignore normal armour saves, things like power weapons in close combat, plasma guns, melta guns etc etc. Normally this would mean your terminater dude would only get his 5+ invunrable save against these wounds. What the storm shield does is give him a 3+ save against these attacks meaning he's more likely to survive to kick ass

You guys have made it a lot easier to understand. Thanks!

kenneydee wrote:Ah.. So if my terminator gets hit with a weapon with AP2, the 2+ armour save wouldn't apply, and he would automatically take a wound. If he was equipped with a storm shield, he will get the 3+ invulnerable save, regardless of the AP of a weapon?

Yes. Except that terminator armour also has a built-in 5+ invulnerable save.

So the even without the storm shield, he would have a 5+ save against an AP2 weapon.