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Hello everyone. I am relatively new to 40k. I started on the tail end of 2009 in collecting the miniatures and now I have a sizeable ork army; sizeable enough to make a 1,500 point list now. I was wondering how this list would do and will now provide the list and hope that constuctive criticism could make this list better. I do have a few other ork options open to me (more boyz, 3 trukks, ect.) and hope to see some comments to make this list better. Anyway, here it is!

Ork Army- 1500 Points

HQ Options
Big Mek with Shokk Attack Gun, Cybork Body and Boss Pole-115 points

Big Mek with Kustom Force Field and Cybork Body-95 points

Elite Options
12 Lootas- 180 points

5 Burnas, 3 Meks with Kustom Mega-Blasters- 120 points

Fast Attack Options
16 Stormboyz with Boss Zagstruk-265 points

1 Deffkopta with Twin-Linked Rokkit Launcha- 45 points

1 Deffkopta with Twin-Linked Rokkit Launcha-45 points

Troop Options
30 Boyz with Sluggas and Choppas, 1 Nob with Power Klaw and Boss Pole-220 points

30 Boyz with Sluggas and Choppas, 1 Nob with Power Klaw and Boss Pole-220 points

30 Boyz with Shootas, 3 with Big Shoota-195 points

Alright, I am picking up a Painboy and some nobs along with a trio of Ork Lobbas for 'eavy support. Do you think there should be something kut in order to make room for that extra squad and bombarding goodness?

The Burna Squad is kind of a waste currently, they don't have a vehicle, the meks don't have anything to repair and their squad is really tiny so they will get shot down easily. I'd replace them with something else - probably more lootas (add 3 lootas to your old squad, then take another 5 man loota squad).

I really dont think there can be a competitive ork list without a battlewagon or some nobs with powerclaws. You have no heavy support. What about dreads or kans! I do think you should down size the boys and add in trukks. You can also add in two dreads. I would do a formations like this:


Dread Battlewagon Dread
Trukk burnas Trukk

The Big mek will go in the wagon and give his special cover to all the dreads (remeber he is a troop choice) and trukks.

The trukks will eventually split to which ever side they are needed.

The burnas will burn stuff and use the wagon as protection.

The battlewagon will harbor nobz and they will pop out of the wagon and crump stuff. The Battlewagon will also need a deff rolla. The Nobz need a painboy

The Lootas are good and will sit back and fire.

A looted wagon would be nice in this list. A large blast for around 100 pts.

Stormboys are nice but I would rather take more deffkoptas w/ big bomm and power claws. The DeffKoptas should be in squads more than one.

I would replace the Shokk attack gun Big mek with a warboss w/ pk or a special character.

But that's using an entirely new army from what he posted he had...

A better option, that would cost him less and let him keep the basics of his army, would be to replace the burnas with more lootas, then replace the Stormboyz with as many Killa Kans with grotzookas as you can fit in. Also, single deff koptas are fine, but they need a Buzzsaw, so they can suicide bomb into a vehicle after turbo boosting during the scout move (if you get 1st turn).

Well, the painboy is incoming, and I am getting some lobbas. I can get some killa kans, and by swapping out the burnas and storm boyz, I can still keep the foot slogging aspect of the army and add a wall of kans to slog with the army. With the KFF, it should mean a much more durable screen of men than with my initial list.

Thanks for the ideas guys!

Well, one thing to keep in mind is that Nobz are not the best choice for footslogging armies, they kind of need a transport (I think).

Oh and your SAG Mek would probably benefit from a grot bodyguard, so you don't have to stick him with your lootas (sucks if you end up blasting your lootas on a bad roll + Lootas want to fire at mech, while SAG can fire at mech, but is probably better vs infantry).

I would probably drop the cybork bodies from your meks too, unless when you've made all your changes you have 20 points left and absolutely NOTHING else to spend it on Ah and the last Boyz squad needs a Nob! Shootas are generally considered better than slugga boyz on foot (and in battlewagons, sluggas are better in trukks tho), but probably not a big deal.

number9dream wrote:Well, one thing to keep in mind is that Nobz are not the best choice for footslogging armies, they kind of need a transport (I think).

Oh and your SAG Mek would probably benefit from a grot bodyguard, so you don't have to stick him with your lootas (sucks if you end up blasting your lootas on a bad roll + Lootas want to fire at mech, while SAG can fire at mech, but is probably better vs infantry).

I would probably drop the cybork bodies from your meks too, unless when you've made all your changes you have 20 points left and absolutely NOTHING else to spend it on Ah and the last Boyz squad needs a Nob! Shootas are generally considered better than slugga boyz on foot (and in battlewagons, sluggas are better in trukks tho), but probably not a big deal.

Ah yes, well I already have 3 trukks in the process of being construked (one as my avatar for instance), plus the nobs to field a full unit. So I could easily kut down the boyz to trukkers and throw in some trukk nobz as well. With the lobbas, I could throw the SAG Big Mek to that unit and enjoy some really entertaining explozions by that unit.

And the cybork bodies were the last few points from the first list. Reworking everything means that I will be changing that as well as adding in a third Nob with BP/PK into that third unit if it survives the kuts I will make within the next week.

Oh ok. Well, I would say either:

a) Get Kans, keep your footslogging core intact. Kans+Lootas+KFF Mek = Strong list.

or

b) Get Nobz, and change to mostly mechanized (battlewagons + trukks, backed up by lootas and deff koptas).

SAG mek + lobbas actually sounds like a decent idea - the Mek can shoot at a different unit from the Lobbas if he wants to, which is a nice bonus.

Thanks for all the ideas you sent my way number9dream! I look foward to tweaking this army up!

No problem, just don't take it as gospel I'm not the most experienced player out there by any stretch, tho I've read far more about this silly game than I should

Well, any type of help is going to go far. Right now, I've primarily been painting my orks. It's a little hard to find players, but I am biding my time and building my army up one konstruktive kriticism at a time.

I recommend googling Vassal 40k (should be one of the top results), good way to get some games in online, so you can play some test games with different options before you buy.

It's actually pretty easy to use, and has a really good quickstart guide. The people I've seen on there have been really nice too so that's always a plus.

Alright, going to revise this list a bit based on what I think may work/what I have already/what can be easily obtained by me.

Ork Army V 2.0 1496 points
HQ Options
Big Mek with Shokk Attack Gun and Boss Pole-105 points
Big Mek with Kustom Force Field-85 points
Elite Options
12 Lootas- 180 points
11 Kommandos with 2 burnas and with Boss Snikrot- 225 points
Fast Attack
16 Stormboyz with Boss Zagstruk-265 points
Heavy Support
3 Big Gunz with Lobbas- 75 points
3 Killa Kans with Grotzookas- 135 points
Troop Options
12 Boyz with Sluggas and Choppas, 1 Nob with Power Klaw and Boss Pole in Trukk- 147 points
12 Boyz with Sluggas and Choppas, 1 Nob with Power Klaw and Boss Pole in Trukk- 147 points
11 Boyz with Sluggas and Choppas, 1 Nob with Power Klaw and Boss Pole in Trukk- 141 points

I cut out the footsloggers and added a lot more to the mobile aspect of the army and 'eavy support. My two big iffs are whether to keep the stormboyz and killa kans in the list. I'm about half way between a dakka and mech army with a little dash of speed in there. Now I read orks do well when focusing on one thing, but I also read that with too many threats to conceive of, orks can overwhelm an enemy by sheer force. This list seems to pack alot in it, and gives me flexibility in what it could do.

Again though, criticism would be appreciated so I can revise this list if need be.